You can get a standard version key, if you bind the CE with your account. You can give away that key to friends or sell it. For that to happen you will need to contact Blizzard and ask for them to refund the digital version since the CE overwrites the standard key.
Bashiok or someone indicated this was your best bet if you wanted to keep your standard on your account to play until you get the CE.
but if they wont even do a simple change to a chat channel (which knowing programming does not take that long) they definitely wont be changing/adding anything else.
This made me lulz, thank you good sir.
For the record, if you know anything about programming, you would understand how terribly wrong this statement is.
Without the source of an application it is extremely hard to gauge the complexity of a change, and to modify anything regarding functionality rather than a simple variable change is potentially hundreds of lines of code to modify.
I can't personally say I like this.
It's far too cluttered.
It also isn't that far of an off shoot of battle.net 2.0 back in the day.
But in all honesty, for a game like Diablo. I want to log in and play, not sit in channels to socialize.
As such I would much prefer a cleaner, streamlined interface.
Mistakes happen, but you haven't even given the organizer / website time to respond.
This post isn't raising awareness, its complaining about something before anyone has had a suitable amount of time to respond.
I actually posted it to them. It's been 2 hours and no response.
I do know that I should notify them, which I did. Don't be so quick to judge.
2 hours is nothing for a busy day for anyone managing these sorts of things. I would be upset perhaps if I did not hear back in 24 hours.
But regardless, you are still, in 2 hours, on the forum, in a public domain, complaining about the faults in a system, based solely on a single mistake.
Mistakes happen, but you haven't even given the organizer / website time to respond.
This post isn't raising awareness, its complaining about something before anyone has had a suitable amount of time to respond.
You could maybe try and DM them on twitter but at any rate I am sure it would take time to sort out.
As per the timestamps, you have to open the individual tweets to get a time stamp. The ordering and the estimation (4min, 54s, etc) are not accurate.
The most accurate depiction of this is going to be on the main feed of the account and not the searched list.
On the other hand, seeing things from different angle, they wound't have all that security messures/systems, if there is no one who can hack. Again WoW was nothing, no real money, no attention from hackers, this can be different.
Yes, With D3 and afterwards real money will be involved, so, there is a bigger potential for hackers to be interested in it.
Not really. Blizzard has had a shop for a long time, this deals with real money and commodities.
They have also been a large company for awhile.
These are good enough reasons if any.
Even the CC DB for WoW dealt enough with money to draw any attention.
Information is everything, straight up monetary value means very little, this is especially true in the underground communities.
On the topic of;
Withdraw
You can only withdraw money on the spot from a transaction, otherwise it goes to your account. This mitigates the return of snatching someone's account.
Security best practices;
Last time I check WoW still does not use upper and lower case characters, this is piss poor practice. Most companies perform security through obscurity. The reason PSN had issues, was someone that knew a little something found a mistake and poor practice and exploited this. By no means where they an expert. Most major sites that go down are due to someone who doesn't know better.
Don't just assume a large company has done everything right because they are large or well known.
Authenticators
Most of the compromised accounts are due to man in the middle attacks, and client side skimming. While this does give an attacker a much smaller window of opportunity, it is not the end all be all. Be smart with your account to mitigate problems, which includes changing passwords, using phrases over just words, and change your password per account.
Server-side Attacks
This is where most of the precautions need to be in place. As someone getting and changing number could result in the biggest problems. However as we can see with WoW and other systems, they tend to be pretty stable with minimal data intrusion. No there are not mystical blackhat hackers out there that can get into anything. This is just movie glam as is naive to believe.
Also alone with the Steam hack, the data that was accessed was not current, and didn't compromise _too_ much. Just because someone can 'get in' doesn't mean they can get root access, or be able to do anything from within the system.
It is against blizzard policies to share accounts.
However with that being said, there isn't a lot they can do to prove someone logging into an account is not you.
They may speculate based on Geo-IP information, and it would be a bold move to ban you based solely on this.
You guys know this isn't like a patch where there are issues on liVe ( as when they patch it's the first time on -live- servers)
This is a new game, this means they can have it on the live servers and working. They will have it loaded up and playable before we have the CD in hand.
So keep that in mind. Not worried
Even if there is a day one patch, it will be for us, but the servers would have already be tested and loaded up with that for a bit before we get to login
It'll be smoooooth
I doubt it will be smooth, look at WoW, even on expacs they still have problems.
Generally login servers are not designed to have a million+ people hitting them in a 5min span(as this only happens for launch generally).
GG unintentional DDoS.
However I do expect the game to be extremely stable, with minimal game creation problems, and crashing alike.
If I dont get a release date on Blizzcon i will be very disappointed.
Why will you be disappointed?
I quite sure you don't get release date at blizzcon, cause the fact is that they pushed it away to early 2012, lets say Q1 (maybe Q2 would not suprise me) but it have never happend that blizz is actully telling us a release date 5 months before?.
/facepalm
Not sure why there is this speculation that the release date is tentatively 6 months after beta, I believe the only basis to this is that is what we saw with SC2.
But more importantly, the fact that the non-official release date was Q4, I would imagine that the release date they were shooting for was Nov/Dec. As they have pushed it back to "early 2012" and not "Q1 of 2012", I would assume this would speculate a 1-2 month push back, indicating Jan/Feb, if inline with the Nov/Dec time frame.
Blizzcon this year was heavily toned to be based on D3, with that being said, they need to release/announce something big in order to keep up with the theme.
I don't think a harddate is unreasonable at Blizzcon.
Well you have to remember a couple points;
i: Beta first and fore most is to test the game / systems in place
ii: The apex of the hype of the beta was that a launch is near, speculations as late as December and as early as November (inline with the Q4 schedule).
As such since the release date was confirmed tentatively for "Early next year", much of the "hype" died down as it was for a hard release date. That moment in my mind is the sole reason we are where we are, not really because of the Beta itself.
I still think Blizzard will have something up its sleeve for Blizzcon, as SC2: HotS, wasn't in my mind the theme for it.
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Bashiok or someone indicated this was your best bet if you wanted to keep your standard on your account to play until you get the CE.
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This made me lulz, thank you good sir.
For the record, if you know anything about programming, you would understand how terribly wrong this statement is.
Without the source of an application it is extremely hard to gauge the complexity of a change, and to modify anything regarding functionality rather than a simple variable change is potentially hundreds of lines of code to modify.
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It's far too cluttered.
It also isn't that far of an off shoot of battle.net 2.0 back in the day.
But in all honesty, for a game like Diablo. I want to log in and play, not sit in channels to socialize.
As such I would much prefer a cleaner, streamlined interface.
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2 hours is nothing for a busy day for anyone managing these sorts of things. I would be upset perhaps if I did not hear back in 24 hours.
But regardless, you are still, in 2 hours, on the forum, in a public domain, complaining about the faults in a system, based solely on a single mistake.
Mistakes != faults
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Mistakes happen, but you haven't even given the organizer / website time to respond.
This post isn't raising awareness, its complaining about something before anyone has had a suitable amount of time to respond.
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As per the timestamps, you have to open the individual tweets to get a time stamp. The ordering and the estimation (4min, 54s, etc) are not accurate.
The most accurate depiction of this is going to be on the main feed of the account and not the searched list.
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Not really. Blizzard has had a shop for a long time, this deals with real money and commodities.
They have also been a large company for awhile.
These are good enough reasons if any.
Even the CC DB for WoW dealt enough with money to draw any attention.
Information is everything, straight up monetary value means very little, this is especially true in the underground communities.
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On the topic of;
Withdraw
You can only withdraw money on the spot from a transaction, otherwise it goes to your account. This mitigates the return of snatching someone's account.
Security best practices;
Last time I check WoW still does not use upper and lower case characters, this is piss poor practice. Most companies perform security through obscurity. The reason PSN had issues, was someone that knew a little something found a mistake and poor practice and exploited this. By no means where they an expert. Most major sites that go down are due to someone who doesn't know better.
Don't just assume a large company has done everything right because they are large or well known.
Authenticators
Most of the compromised accounts are due to man in the middle attacks, and client side skimming. While this does give an attacker a much smaller window of opportunity, it is not the end all be all. Be smart with your account to mitigate problems, which includes changing passwords, using phrases over just words, and change your password per account.
Server-side Attacks
This is where most of the precautions need to be in place. As someone getting and changing number could result in the biggest problems. However as we can see with WoW and other systems, they tend to be pretty stable with minimal data intrusion. No there are not mystical blackhat hackers out there that can get into anything. This is just movie glam as is naive to believe.
Also alone with the Steam hack, the data that was accessed was not current, and didn't compromise _too_ much. Just because someone can 'get in' doesn't mean they can get root access, or be able to do anything from within the system.
This is no different then eBay/eBanking/etc.
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So with that being said, you're not going to be sure the game is released, even if it's in your hands?
I just hope we don't see an April fools joke relating to the release date from Blizzard, would be such bad form.
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However with that being said, there isn't a lot they can do to prove someone logging into an account is not you.
They may speculate based on Geo-IP information, and it would be a bold move to ban you based solely on this.
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I doubt it will be smooth, look at WoW, even on expacs they still have problems.
Generally login servers are not designed to have a million+ people hitting them in a 5min span(as this only happens for launch generally).
GG unintentional DDoS.
However I do expect the game to be extremely stable, with minimal game creation problems, and crashing alike.
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/facepalm
Not sure why there is this speculation that the release date is tentatively 6 months after beta, I believe the only basis to this is that is what we saw with SC2.
But more importantly, the fact that the non-official release date was Q4, I would imagine that the release date they were shooting for was Nov/Dec. As they have pushed it back to "early 2012" and not "Q1 of 2012", I would assume this would speculate a 1-2 month push back, indicating Jan/Feb, if inline with the Nov/Dec time frame.
Blizzcon this year was heavily toned to be based on D3, with that being said, they need to release/announce something big in order to keep up with the theme.
I don't think a harddate is unreasonable at Blizzcon.
1.5 weeks to find out for sure.
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i: Beta first and fore most is to test the game / systems in place
ii: The apex of the hype of the beta was that a launch is near, speculations as late as December and as early as November (inline with the Q4 schedule).
As such since the release date was confirmed tentatively for "Early next year", much of the "hype" died down as it was for a hard release date. That moment in my mind is the sole reason we are where we are, not really because of the Beta itself.
I still think Blizzard will have something up its sleeve for Blizzcon, as SC2: HotS, wasn't in my mind the theme for it.