most of what you say isn't true. I have tried running SMK without Zunis, and it still is better with zunis. And there is no pack that 1 shots fetish army in t6 unless you have absolutely no gear. Remember their toughness rises with yours. If they are getting one shot, you don't belong in t6 yet.
I'm really not interested in forum wars, but I would appreciate you having some self-discipline to refrain from attempting to belittle fellow posters so quickly. I'm sorry youfelt like I was being a dick in my response, but that was not actually so. The OP posted a day previous, so I couldn't have known if he had already tested this, and I was direct after noticing the OP had some clear grammatical and spelling errors, thinking English may not be a primary. If you feel my conduct is inappropriate, I'd be happy to listen to your opinion in a PM, rather than being attacked in a condescending manner in public.
As to the topic at hand, and the additional response, nothing has been added beyond what I said other than information regarding elites.
OP: I hope the info said here helps you in deciding on whether or not flurry is worth your time. If you'd like, I made a holy build using FS: Flurry that was quite successful in T3 that I could post for you to consider. It's a fun ability and a great addition to builds when you want to have fun, but myself and others have concluded that as far as efficiency, it really is lacking (Mannercookie has info/ opinion regarding this for your reference with video, OP).
Uriah, you were the one being condescending and it is unnecessary. The OP didn't know the answer, so there is no need to attack him. Do onto others what you wish to be done onto you. He only wanted help, and if posting in a forum about the game he is playing bothers you, then do not post at all. You didn't need to be rude to him, or reply with more condescension to me. The poster wanted to know something, that's all. Take your own advice, if you have a problem with the OP then PM him instead if being rude to him in a public forum.
Well Uriah, instead of being a dick in your response when you don't know what you are talking about, why don't you test it yourself or wait until someone who knows what they are talking about responds?
OP: the confusion is that the incapacitation doesn't work on elites. Only white mobs. I am not sure if this is Blizzards intention or an oversight, but that is why it seems to not work. It does work on trash mobs in basically the same way Black Hole or Piranhado work, spinning mobs around for the duration of the flurry.
Lost interest when I saw you using a TF. There have to be 15 weapons better for Dart build in t6 than TF and half of those 15 are easier to find than TF.
And also, darts procs sychophants often enough to completely replace fetish army after just 1 pack. Blizzard needs to fix this before 2.1, this was working fine before, and 2.0.5 has but a damper on dart builds.
TF procs helps the build totally, 15 weapons better than TF for this build?? NOPE. There is only one and is Starmetal.
Even Splinters rune don't proc sychopants as fast before your fetish army get wiped out in T6. Obviously you didn't watch the full video.
You say TF procs help totally, but you don't say why. Why? In what way? I did watch the video, I play the build and have been running T6 since April with it. TF is a horrible weapon for darts, there is NO benefit to the low damage lightning prod.
@Cradow ill name a couple. For those who are blinded by the thunderfury hype.
1:Starmetal for OBVIOUS reasons. This one I hope I do not have to explain.
2:Pig Sticker PIg sticker can roll 5 stats. You can get 1480 damage with +10% damage roll and you have the added bonus of up to 30% weapon damage vs humans and beasts which is 80% of rift monsters. Also it has 1.60 attack speed so you proc fetish quite fast and itups your DPS a ton because it both adds damage multiplier to pets and allows you to get more volleys off which means hitting with 15 more darts more quickly.
Those are two examples. There are more, but because lightning looks cool, you will never try them even though your damage is inferior.
First of all, our weapon damage is a range of damage not a solid number. So you don't realize the difference directly when just watching just because of how varied it can be, however I can assure you that elemental damage affects your let's in the exact same way it affects every other skill we have. It is a direct additive damage bonus to our damage. Your example of going from 8-10 to 10-12 is about right. I don't see an issue here.
Well there is something wrong with your testing, I can assure you elemental damage increases the damage of your pets. Simple test is to use a rune of fetish army of a different element than what you are wearing. For me legion of daggers hits for about 10-15m damage per hit. But because I run 80% poison damage, head hunters crit for over 25m.
Lost interest when I saw you using a TF. There have to be 15 weapons better for Dart build in t6 than TF and half of those 15 are easier to find than TF.
And also, darts procs sychophants often enough to completely replace fetish army after just 1 pack. Blizzard needs to fix this before 2.1, this was working fine before, and 2.0.5 has but a damper on dart builds.
The changes have ruined my T6 dart build. I lose a lot of DPS when the fetish go melee and sychophants have replaces my poison damage headhunters with physical. (I am running +80% poison damage) + I lose the 45% bonus from fetish army damage rolls. For now I've taken Zuni off for just regular legendaries, I think blizzard will fix this. Hopefully.
There are 13 legendary items that are torment only. Not sure what they are though, but blizzard said this number a few times. They have a list somewhere in the D3 forums.
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As to the topic at hand, and the additional response, nothing has been added beyond what I said other than information regarding elites.
OP: I hope the info said here helps you in deciding on whether or not flurry is worth your time. If you'd like, I made a holy build using FS: Flurry that was quite successful in T3 that I could post for you to consider. It's a fun ability and a great addition to builds when you want to have fun, but myself and others have concluded that as far as efficiency, it really is lacking (Mannercookie has info/ opinion regarding this for your reference with video, OP).
Uriah, you were the one being condescending and it is unnecessary. The OP didn't know the answer, so there is no need to attack him. Do onto others what you wish to be done onto you. He only wanted help, and if posting in a forum about the game he is playing bothers you, then do not post at all. You didn't need to be rude to him, or reply with more condescension to me. The poster wanted to know something, that's all. Take your own advice, if you have a problem with the OP then PM him instead if being rude to him in a public forum.
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OP: the confusion is that the incapacitation doesn't work on elites. Only white mobs. I am not sure if this is Blizzards intention or an oversight, but that is why it seems to not work. It does work on trash mobs in basically the same way Black Hole or Piranhado work, spinning mobs around for the duration of the flurry.
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@Cradow ill name a couple. For those who are blinded by the thunderfury hype.
1:Starmetal for OBVIOUS reasons. This one I hope I do not have to explain.
2:Pig Sticker PIg sticker can roll 5 stats. You can get 1480 damage with +10% damage roll and you have the added bonus of up to 30% weapon damage vs humans and beasts which is 80% of rift monsters. Also it has 1.60 attack speed so you proc fetish quite fast and itups your DPS a ton because it both adds damage multiplier to pets and allows you to get more volleys off which means hitting with 15 more darts more quickly.
Those are two examples. There are more, but because lightning looks cool, you will never try them even though your damage is inferior.
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And also, darts procs sychophants often enough to completely replace fetish army after just 1 pack. Blizzard needs to fix this before 2.1, this was working fine before, and 2.0.5 has but a damper on dart builds.
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I too am curious what the numbers would be. It wouldn't affect my play, but I enjoy seeing the numbers
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Each passive that adds a zombie dog, increases the damage of gargantuan dog from tall mans finger
Result:
65-75m crits and 15-20m damage over time per tick vs white mobs
105-112m crits and 20-30m damage over time per tick vs elites (using an SOJ).
New zombie dog with tasked and Theo attack speed has higher single target DPS over the course of 30 seconds than full jade set.
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