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Quote from Zero(pS)

No, it's not bullshit. And I'm glad they finally admitted that their main concern was third party website trading (instead of the initial excuses). Apparently they don't wantany pay to win in the game anymore, and quite frankly, BoA is the only way that was going to happen. The dealbreaker for me is going to be how sometimes, when playing with some friends, you could be saving gear for them (specially in those cases where you can't be online at the same time), and pulling each other up every time you find something nice. But instead we're gonna be stuck with the whole "he has to be IN the game for me to give him an item that he wants and that I want to give him, so we can play a higher difficulty together". That's probably the biggest letdown of BoA to me, and I find itvery weird that they haven't given any response on what are their thoughts on implementing something liketrading with clan for 2 hours (or trade with Friends List when the item dropped).

Quote from ruksak

Only 1 special property. Same 'ol linear stat lines. Boosted numbers creating the illusion of power.

• Increases your Fire damage by 50%. Reduces your non-Fire Elemental Damage by 50%.
• Increase Attack Speed by 30%. Reduce your Maximum Health by 10%.
• 1h Weapon: Increases your Physical Damage with all attacks by 15%. Can only be equipped with a Shield.
• Chest Piece: For each gem type socketed in this item, gain 100 Resist All. Each gem type in this item has no effect in your other gear slots.

• Critical Hit Damage is increased to Stunned targets.
• Killing a Frozen enemy Shatters them, dealing damage to all enemies within 10 yards.
• +% Chance to Knock Back. Enemies that are Knocked Back damage all enemies where they land.
• (Your idea here)

• Gain 1% Attack Speed and 100 Life on Hit each time you're dealt more than 25% of your max Health. Lasts 5 seconds.
• 10% of damage dealt to you heals allies within 20 yards.
• When below 30% Health, all your attacks gain 50% chance to Knockback.
• After 10 successful Blocks within X seconds, release a Shockwave with a Chance to Knockback all enemies within 10 yards.
• After 10 successful Blocks within X seconds, release a Wave of Light that Heals all allies within 30 yards.
• Every time you Block, gain X Armor/All Resistance/HP, X maximum stacks, lasts for X seconds.
• (Your idea here)
• Every time you do not block an attack your Block Chance is increased by 5% and your Block Amount is increased by 25%. (Resets after block)

• Lightning Damage you deal has a chance to Stun enemies.
• Cold Damage Slows enemies, with a chance to Freeze.
• Fire Damage Ignites enemies, causing them to take more damage from all attacks.
• Poison Damage causes enemies to take extra damage over 10 seconds.
• Holy Damage deals additional damage to Undead and Demons.
• Shadow Damage reduces an enemies Healing.
• Arcane Damage has a chance per hit to Blind, Fear, or Stun enemies.
• You're Thorns Damage is increased by 50%. While Stunned, your Thorns is increased by an additional 40%. +150-250 Main Stat. -75-150 Vit.
• Your thorns damage is increased by your critical strike damage percentage. In addition every time you get hit you receive 20% less damage for the next incoming hit.
• (Your idea here)

• Adds 5% Fire, Cold, and Lightning Damage to all of your attacks. (Vengeance? :D)
• (Your idea here)

• Your "+Critical Hit Damage %" instead adds a "% Damage Increase" to your non-Crit attacks. (Conversion TBD)
• Your attacks have a % chance to destroy all objects in a 30 yard radius.
• Firewalkers make you immune to burning ground effects. (Desecrator, Molten, etc)
• Monsters no longer Drop Gold. Gain 50% Bonus Experience.
• Monsters no longer Drop Gold. 50% of your total Gold Find grants Bonus Experience instead.
• Every time you are healed by a Health Globe, gain X% Magic Find for 20 seconds. Can surpass Magic Find cap.
• The duration of all buffs (Self/Ally/Shrines/NV) is doubled.
• When traveling from one act to the next, your max NV stacks is increased by 5.
• Each time you complete a quest, your max NV stack is increased by 1.
• All Skill Costs, Cooldowns, and Experience Gained are reduced by 30%.
• Dodging an attack increases your Critical Hit Damage by 20%. This bonus resets after you deal damage with any skill.
• After getting a call out for destroying the environment, your damage increases by an amount equal to 100% of the number of environment objects destroyed.
• Enemies hit by the environment take 30% more damage for 3 seconds.
• Enemies slain with a critical hit splatter blood onto your screen and have a 100% chance to drop a Health Globe.
• 3-6%chance on hit to transform into a werewolf and gain 15%attack speed and 10%movement for 15-30seconds. (internal cooldown of like 1 minute or whatever to stop abuse).
• +10% chance on hit to make monsters twerk for 3 seconds.

• Allies within 25 yards are healed by 10% of all damage dealt to you while Sweeping Wind is Active.
• Serenity grants Immunity to all allies for 2 seconds. The cooldown is extended by 5 seconds.
• Your Critical Hit Chance is increased by 1% for every 5 enemies hit with Multishot. Lasts 5 seconds.
• Reduces the initial Damage of Cluster Arrow by 50%, but increases the number of bombs released to 10.
• Hydra adds 5% (corresponding element) damage to all Allies' attacks within 25 yards.
• All allies within 15 yards, after using Leap, gain a 30% damage reduction buff for 5 seconds.
• Enemies slain by a Hydra have a chance to spawn another Hydra in their location.
• The cooldown of Wave of Force is reduced by 2 seconds for each ranged attack it reflects. Enemies hit by reflected attacks have their movement speed reduced by 80% for 4 seconds.
• While Diamond Skin is active, you will leave a trail of frost that slows enemy movement speed by 60% over 6 seconds.
• Your pickup radius now increases the area of effect from your Whirlwind ability by 20% of its initial value but no longer effects gold or health globe pickup radius. (e.g. 10 yards pickup radius become 2 yards increased Whirlwind aoe but you now have a 0 yard pickup radius for gold/health globes)
• If an enemy is killed by your Rend ability it has a 100% increased chance to drop a health globe. (e.g. 10% > 20% dropchance)
• Your Leap ability drags all enemies in the launching area within 8 yards to the landing position.
• Your Ignore Pain ability now renders you immune to crowd control effects during its duration but you only reduce the incoming damage by 40% instead of 65%. (also breaks CC effects)
• Your Sprint ability now allows you to run through enemies during its duration but increases the fury cost to 30.
• Your Weapon Throw ability now passes through all enemies but its damage is reduced by 20% (multiplicative)
• Your War Cry ability now costs 20 (40 with charge! rune) fury instead of granting 20 (40 with Charge! rune) fury. It also does 400% (800% with Charge! rune) weapon damage in a 25 yard radius.

• Adds 4% of both Poison and Cold Damage (any combo) to all of your attacks.
• Adds 10% of (specific element) Damage to all of your attacks.
• Gain 1% Lifesteal from your (specific element) Damage attacks.
• Monsters have X% higher chance to drop Health Globes.
• (Your idea here)

• (2) set:
-Melee attackers ignite on fire, taking 10% more damage from all attacks. The fire spreads to nearby enemies.

• (3) set:
-Enemies within 15 yards have a chance to be feared occasionally.

• (4) set:
-+10% Damage to Demons.
-Reflect 10% of all Ranged attacks as Fire Damage.
-You leave a trail of fire in your wake.

• (2) set:
-+10% Resistances to All Elements.
-Gain 10% of your max (resource) each time you block.
-While above 50% (resource), your attacks gain 10% Holy Damage.

• (2) set:
- Your Frenzy and Bash abilty now swing with both weapons at the same time.
- The arc of your Cleave ability is now 3 yards wider and your Cleave ability does 20% more damage. (multiplicative)

• The AH takes all the fun out of finding useful items.
• Items found while "playing the game" are Auctioned 99.99% of the time to be able to purchase upgrades, via Auction House.
• Finding your own gear and progressing at the rate of the general community is impossible. While this shouldn't necessarily be as fast, the difference is too vast.

• Personally discovered items will be considered "Pristine".
• Pristine Items gain a % bonus to all affixes.
• Pristine Legendaries receive a bonus, special affix.
• When a Pristine item is traded to any other account, it becomes "Worn".
• Worn items contain the original stats of the item.
• A limited number of Pristine Items can be equipped at a time. (possibly)

• The best items in the game can only be found by YOU.
• Finding a specific legendary you want will still be rare.
• Finding any legendary may be exciting enough to motivate trying new builds.
• The bonus, legendary affix should have a very unique impact on each item, strongly influencing unique builds. (Better affixes than the one that took me 10 seconds to come up with.)
• Just like in D2, the playtime required for the best legendaries (uniques), could be a very long time, but it WILL be special when YOU find them.
• Collecting gear you find and saving it for later/other builds/characters is possible again.
• Purchasing items off the Auction House will still be critical and convenient for quick upgrades and finding/trading gear required for your specific builds.
• The loot hunt becomes exciting again!

• This is the only solution I can see (or something similar) to having loot YOU find to occasionally be better than what you might be able to buy in the Auction House.
• High end gear will still be extremely expensive on the Auction House. It's not like a perfect item for each slot will drop for you right away, if ever.
• Possibly lowering the drop rate of Legendaries could make them feel more special, with this system in place.
• The items we find need to be stronger than traded/auctioned items, or the AH will win every time.

Quote from thundersteele

This is certainly one option for OWE in the future. But don't fool yourself into thinking that it gives you more options on the AH.

Say you want to re-gear your monk from scratch. Right now, you can do the following:

Get a 4 items with double resist (say 60 all res, 40 single resist) for 400 total. This you can get easily on the non-dps items like belt and shoulders, chest and pants.
Then you can get single resist DPS items, e.g. rings and amulets, gloves, helm, bracers. Say you get 40 single resist on each, 240 total. This is a total of 640 resists, and we still have one item slot left (the boots). This can be used either to get more resists, or to compensate for some legendary items that can't roll much resists on them (e.g. Inna's pants).

Ok, now we do the same in the new system. Instead of up to 60 resists, we can now only gain at most 30 resist all by getting single resists on the DPS items, realistically 20 on average. So we're down to 240 + 10*20 = 440 resist. This means we have to get double resist or at least all-resist on some of the DPS items. Be prepared to pay 5x the price for the same item now.

So the trade off would be less flexibility, the need for all resist on more items, and more items where one has to compete with all monks and demon hunters. The advantage is now that we don't have to pick the item with the correct resistance, but the effect of the single resistance becomes marginal compared to any other stat.

And, it's a complicated system. Say you have the following: 400 all resist, 250 fire resist, 150 cold resist. What is the final fire resist? 650 or 725 or 600?


Some time ago I came up with a different, more radical solution:
Get rid of single resist gear. OWE = XX% bonus resist, say 20% or 25%.

Now, what to do with the existing gear? The following somewhat clumsy algorithm is the best I could come up with:
1. Single resist gear: The single resistance is converted into all resistance. This is a 100% win for the item owners, no loss of resistance is possible.
2. Double resist gear: For each point of single resistance, gain 0.5 all resist and 5 armor. This would be a loss of resists for some items, e.g. a 65/50 item would be converted to an item with 80 all res and 250 armor, effectively loosing 10 resists. The loss in value would be marginal, since max all resist gear is quite valuable.

While this system is complicated, it would be a one time change. Afterwards one would not need a handbook to explain the OWE skill, like in the OP's solution. The number of items that end up loosing value is very small... the biggest issue would be with double resist legendaries like Vile Ward (I own one of those), since they already have high rolls of all resist and armor.

• Take my idea above.
• Replace the word "instead" in the first tooltip to "in addition to your resists."
• You get a new version of OWE. The resists you choose to stack will be higher than the "current" version of OWE, but all other would be a little lower. It's mostly a minor compromise (a buff in some situations) to allow you to be more flexible with gear and not really nerf the skill at all.

1. It's our best passive, so everyone uses it. This interferes with making builds a lot. We essentially only have two passives to play with.
2. It requires us(monks) to use an additional affix slot during searches for gear on the AH. This not only means we can't search for as many of the affixes that we want, but it also hugely limits the availability of gear we have to choose from.

• For each "specific" resist you have equipped, gain half of it as Resist All instead.
• Gain half your combined total of "specific" resists as Resist All instead.
• Rather than gaining "specific" resists, gain half of them as Resist All instead.

• Say your wearing gear that gives you 400 All Resist and 400(200) Physical Resist (the current method of using OWE). You would end up with 600 All Resist, instead of 800 from the current system.

• On the other hand, say you have gear that has 400 All Resist, 100(50) PhysR, 90(45) FireR, 60(30) ColdR, 70(35) LightR, and 80(40) ArcaneR. You would end up with 600 All Resist instead of 500 from the current system.

Quote from Bleu42

This game is hard, and that's how it is supposed to be. If you want what you think you're entitled to after X amount of hours, go play WoW.

Quote from Zero(pS)

Make sure to post this on the official forums... who knows, maybe for an expansion...

It's a really neat idea, but one that would definitely need a ton of testing... finding that sweetspot where you want to have enough stats to actually impact the gameplay (actually helping the skill instead of reducing its cost by say 1%); but not having it affect so much the skill that it completely breaks the planned combat mechanics..

Balancing could also be a nightmare, linking gear stats directly to specific skill/runes/builds, and then having to nerf them would cause major complaints (imagine the Wiz/Barb drama times 1000).

I absolutely like it, but I also understand from a game-design standpoint that even the best ideas need testing before being implemented.

Quote from FaithRaven

Right now I need to decide what I value more on my offhand: 150 vit or 8-10 APOC.

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Quote from waysa

And 90 of the people who are diddicatet to ladder are going to restart ladder with the new season.

Quote from Time2Kill

It seems that people will have their opinion about it but that by far does no mean you are right. And to say your going to find a dif game to play if they do this or of they do that is childish.

Quote from Cobearz

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Quote from noladrew

Who is the loser in the scenario of introducing these new legendaries in seasons, as well as non-seasons? You will still have your choice to play seasons if you actually want to, right? What more incentive than "I want to play seasons because I like the idea of this game mode" do you need? If this is not enough incentive in itself, clearly it's not your preferred game mode?

Thats what Im trying to say. If you want to play seasonal/ladder games, you will play them because you want to. I dont think its reasonable for someone to be like, "oh god i really want to get item 'x'. i HAVE to play ladders, even though i dont want to". Just seems foolish to me.