This thread saddens me greatly. I know that the Battle.net forums have earned a reputation for rough justice, but I do not believe justice is being served by how people are speaking about Jay’s departure from Diablo III.
I am very proud of the Diablo franchise and what the team was able to accomplish with Diablo III. As a gamer I have enjoyed the game and played for many, many nights with friends and family. I’m not, however, going to use that as an excuse. The Diablo community deserves an even better game from Blizzard and we are committed to improving it. We have a talented team in place and have no intention of stopping work on Diablo III until it is the best game in the franchise.
I’m the only person in this thread who has actually worked with Jay. I hired Jay to head up the Diablo project and had the pleasure of getting to work with him, both in building the team and designing the game. He has great design instincts and has added so much to the franchise with his feel for visceral combat, boss battles, and an unparalleled knack for making it fun to smash bad guys. I’ve worked with many, many designers at Blizzard and Jay is one of the best. He has a great career at Blizzard ahead of him and I guarantee that you will enjoy Jay’s game designs in future Blizzard games.
If you love Diablo as much as we do, then please continue to let us know how you feel we can improve the game. If you still feel the need to dish out blame, then I would prefer you direct it at me. I was the executive producer on the project; I hired Jay and I gave him advice and direction throughout the development process. I was ultimately responsible for the game we released and take full responsibility for the quality of the result.
Dyes for Legendary Items
Legendary items will finally be able painted! For now, only with the vanishing dye though!
We’re working on getting Vanishing Dyes for Legendary items into 1.0.7. We intend for them to have the same slot restrictions as dyes traditionally have, so you’ll be able to use Vanishing Dye on say, your Legendary shoulders or helmet, but not items such as your weapons.
We hope this change will be available for testing on the PTR in a future build, but that may not possible. We’ll keep you updated.
I'm sure adding color to every legendary skin would take time. Vanishing dye at least would be a lot easier to do which is why it would be able to make it into 1.07. They will do color in the long run though I'm sure.
We’re definitely working on making all dyes work for Legendary items. It’s not a quick-fix, though; as Fearophobias surmised, our artists actually need to go back and redo the textures on all the Legendaries in order to make them dye-compatible.
Since we know this process will take some time, we wanted to make sure that players could at least use Vanishing Dye for now (it was the most-requested dye for Legendaries that we’ve seen to date).
Hellfire Rings to be Salvageable in 1.0.7
After some time and discussions the Hellfire Rings will now be salvageable into normal Legendary materials.
The plan is to have Hellfire Rings salvage into normal Legendary crafting materials in 1.0.7 (not organs, see below). That change isn't live on the PTR right now, but will be in a future build.
Here's an earlier response I provided on the topic of Hellfire Rings > demonic organs. The reasoning still holds true:
We've definitely discussed the possibility of allowing Hellfire Rings to salvage into component pieces, and have debated your feedback quite heavily as a part of that process. While we understand why players would like Hellfire Rings to salvage into demonic organs (or even Keywarden keys), we don't think that's the right way to go right now since it would essentially let you skip some encounters completely. It's something we may revisit in the future, though, once the event has been around for a longer period of time.
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Rob is a gentleman and feels pity for the rotten little imp. I doubt Rob coerced him into doing/saying some of the outrageous things he's said/done. That and since Jay is still with the company, if he's working on something we're gonna see in the future, he's doing damage control in hopes that we won't pre-emptively crap on the next Blizzard title with Jay's name on it.
"If you love Diablo as much as we do, then please continue to let us know how you feel we can improve the game."
In other words: "Please help us fix the game with your thoughts and ideas, although you aren't with our team and you won't get PAID, because we can't handle it ourselves."
Seriously now. What is the difference between Jay's and Rob's roles? The buck obviously stops somewhere and I am most interested in finding a blame to place blame on.
They ask us to tell them what is freaking wrong with the game and how to fix it and we have been doing that even throughout the whole freaking Beta...
They have not listened or chose to ignore the majority of it, where as on other parts they have listened...The game also relies far too heavily on items and without items the character you make is utter garbage...
If Rob is proud of what they did then something must be seriously wrong at Blizzard... Too much iteration imo with no clear direction.
R.I.P Cain, Last of the Horadrim to be killed by a butterfly...lol
We'll see where this leads for D3 in the coming months. Will be an interesting time, perhaps.
Maybe their higher-ups are getting out of touch, or too busy, or too big of a company, or too much aim at "grandmas can play". Battle.net 2.0's been critiqued for years now (since SC2's beta), and yet no Blizz game or expac appears to improve it much (rather they just keep compounding things on, rather than making the core experience more social, etc). I feel like Blizzard has lost its original company vision maybe since around 2007 onwards? And yet, things like D3's combat are so fun, but it needed more interesting item-hunt and itemization to surround it... but they failed to see how Diablo 2 tiers its items and stats etc...
Rob must feel sorry for Jay, but shouldn't because Jay brought it on himself. Stating on the day of release that D3 has been in polish mode for the previous two years was laughable. Then telling us we should be sick of Cain and that the story was awesome. That whole facebook incident. Teasing us with PvP, only to post a back-tracking blog post a few weeks later saying it's "just not up to snuff". Gawd.
And now 1.07 is introducing stuff Brevik said they should have introduced in the first place. Hmmm...
I feel like Blizzard has lost its original company vision maybe since around 2007 onwards?
Mists of Pandaria begs to differ.
Other than that you could be totally right.
Yea...because a kung fu panda hunting pokemon is extremely original... I never seen either character or game play (pokemon battles) any whereeeeee at all.
Yea...because a kung fu panda hunting pokemon is extremely original... I never seen either character or game play (pokemon battles) any whereeeeee at all.
Doesn't matter if you and me like it or not. It brought back subscribers and the majority of the audience approves of it. It's a step in the right direction after Cataclysm.
If its the non-constructive criticism you are talking about I agree if its simply the criticism directed at this game and Mr.Wilson then I would disagree with you. This designer you speak so highly of has simply not shown the qualities you speak of.
Forgive me, I would also agree with you in laying the blame on you in some quantity as is the case in any profession in any kind of business for hiring an incompetent individual. Additionally, There is pride and there is foolish pride Mr. Pardo. There is nothing to be proud of in this game.
It is very kind of you to make this post in support of your colleague and friend however. I sincerely hope you have understood what the people desire from this game from the various feedback threads you see everyday and will make improvements in the game towards them from now on.
Actually what's sad about this game..well one blizzard being in charge of it and began the nerfing garbage for the casuals again is one thing. But the other thing is that after 7 years in the making and they still can't get pvp done, lol. Blizzard has went down hill so bad. I used to defend and not care about the pvp but after all this time it is kind of sad for such a multi million dollar company to have such issues while every other game has pvp and don't even got a qauter of blizzards money. About the only good game they got left is sc2 and hopefully these devs keep away from it.
"If you love Diablo as much as we do, then please continue to let us know how you feel we can improve the game." i think i did something like this before patch 1.0.4 came out hope they learn from this "PR" damage diablo 3 cause
It's a sorry state of affairs when someone has to intervene and play meatshield because the tardposting hits critical limit... My money is safely on all of the edgy "gtfo jay" posts on the official forums being the same people claiming they are too mature for the game.
Doesn't matter if you and me like it or not. It brought back subscribers and the majority of the audience approves of it. It's a step in the right direction after Cataclysm.
It's a bit early to be happy about MoP. I'd wait for the next conference call before saying that. It is a very tiresome game to me, I left after two months. I never left any other expansion before a full year (full content cycle). It is the same argument as with Diablo 3: sure, sure, it sold more than ten million, but it's not a game that would be as successful without the brands Diablo and Blizzard on it.
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A message from Rob Pardo regarding Jay Wilson.
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
I am very proud of the Diablo franchise and what the team was able to accomplish with Diablo III. As a gamer I have enjoyed the game and played for many, many nights with friends and family. I’m not, however, going to use that as an excuse. The Diablo community deserves an even better game from Blizzard and we are committed to improving it. We have a talented team in place and have no intention of stopping work on Diablo III until it is the best game in the franchise.
I’m the only person in this thread who has actually worked with Jay. I hired Jay to head up the Diablo project and had the pleasure of getting to work with him, both in building the team and designing the game. He has great design instincts and has added so much to the franchise with his feel for visceral combat, boss battles, and an unparalleled knack for making it fun to smash bad guys. I’ve worked with many, many designers at Blizzard and Jay is one of the best. He has a great career at Blizzard ahead of him and I guarantee that you will enjoy Jay’s game designs in future Blizzard games.
If you love Diablo as much as we do, then please continue to let us know how you feel we can improve the game. If you still feel the need to dish out blame, then I would prefer you direct it at me. I was the executive producer on the project; I hired Jay and I gave him advice and direction throughout the development process. I was ultimately responsible for the game we released and take full responsibility for the quality of the result.
Dyes for Legendary Items
Legendary items will finally be able painted! For now, only with the vanishing dye though!
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
We hope this change will be available for testing on the PTR in a future build, but that may not possible. We’ll keep you updated.
I'm sure adding color to every legendary skin would take time. Vanishing dye at least would be a lot easier to do which is why it would be able to make it into 1.07. They will do color in the long run though I'm sure.
We’re definitely working on making all dyes work for Legendary items. It’s not a quick-fix, though; as Fearophobias surmised, our artists actually need to go back and redo the textures on all the Legendaries in order to make them dye-compatible.
Since we know this process will take some time, we wanted to make sure that players could at least use Vanishing Dye for now (it was the most-requested dye for Legendaries that we’ve seen to date).
Hellfire Rings to be Salvageable in 1.0.7
After some time and discussions the Hellfire Rings will now be salvageable into normal Legendary materials.
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Here's an earlier response I provided on the topic of Hellfire Rings > demonic organs. The reasoning still holds true:
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Ha. Bagstone.
In other words: "Please help us fix the game with your thoughts and ideas, although you aren't with our team and you won't get PAID, because we can't handle it ourselves."
~Blizzard Staff
He has worked as designer on:
Diablo II
StarCraft
WarCraft II
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WarCraft III
WarCraft III: Frozen Throne
All World of Warcraft expansions including vanilla.
Ha. Bagstone.
They have not listened or chose to ignore the majority of it, where as on other parts they have listened...The game also relies far too heavily on items and without items the character you make is utter garbage...
If Rob is proud of what they did then something must be seriously wrong at Blizzard... Too much iteration imo with no clear direction.
R.I.P Cain, Last of the Horadrim to be killed by a butterfly...lol
We'll see where this leads for D3 in the coming months. Will be an interesting time, perhaps.
Maybe their higher-ups are getting out of touch, or too busy, or too big of a company, or too much aim at "grandmas can play". Battle.net 2.0's been critiqued for years now (since SC2's beta), and yet no Blizz game or expac appears to improve it much (rather they just keep compounding things on, rather than making the core experience more social, etc). I feel like Blizzard has lost its original company vision maybe since around 2007 onwards? And yet, things like D3's combat are so fun, but it needed more interesting item-hunt and itemization to surround it... but they failed to see how Diablo 2 tiers its items and stats etc...
Oh well, hoping for the best
D3 Channel: OnetwoD3
Mists of Pandaria begs to differ.
Other than that you could be totally right.
Ha. Bagstone.
And now 1.07 is introducing stuff Brevik said they should have introduced in the first place. Hmmm...
So in simplier terms, Wilson has full authority over D3. Rob has full authority over Wilson in a supervisory role.
We can thus safely blame Wilson for all the D3 launch problems. Rob's part is more on how well he supervised Wilson.
Yep. All the technical launch problems are blamed on a designer.
/s
Ha. Bagstone.
Yea...because a kung fu panda hunting pokemon is extremely original... I never seen either character or game play (pokemon battles) any whereeeeee at all.
Doesn't matter if you and me like it or not. It brought back subscribers and the majority of the audience approves of it. It's a step in the right direction after Cataclysm.
Ha. Bagstone.
Forgive me, I would also agree with you in laying the blame on you in some quantity as is the case in any profession in any kind of business for hiring an incompetent individual. Additionally, There is pride and there is foolish pride Mr. Pardo. There is nothing to be proud of in this game.
It is very kind of you to make this post in support of your colleague and friend however. I sincerely hope you have understood what the people desire from this game from the various feedback threads you see everyday and will make improvements in the game towards them from now on.
i think i did something like this before patch 1.0.4 came out
hope they learn from this "PR" damage diablo 3 cause
Ah I don't know about much about MoP so I can't speak for that; I quit WoW one day in 2007 and never came back lol. But it was a great experience.
D3 Channel: OnetwoD3
It's a bit early to be happy about MoP. I'd wait for the next conference call before saying that. It is a very tiresome game to me, I left after two months. I never left any other expansion before a full year (full content cycle). It is the same argument as with Diablo 3: sure, sure, it sold more than ten million, but it's not a game that would be as successful without the brands Diablo and Blizzard on it.