I don't think this is a real story, but it involves some interesting concepts.
I think misrepresenting yourself on that level to get in someone's pants is selfish. When someone is making decisions about sex, they should be making the decisions based on a realistic understanding of who their partner is, and what their motives are. If you are an athiest, there are plenty of potential dates who are either also athiest, or flexible enough not to mind seeing someone with different ideas. If you are looking for a one night stand, or a sexual relationship with no strings attached, that's not too hard to find either.
Tricking somone who wouldn't be open to what you are looking for, and getting them in bed by lying is just wrong and pointless.
I agree with this on on most levels, but how far would you take that? I'm personally very honest, if not always open, because lieing makes me feel bad, I'm not good at it anyway and it generally kills my attraction to the other person if it would be necessary. I have friends that are less honest though, but it only bothers me in certain cases. For example, if you're meeting someone through social circles, or just bumping into them or whatever, I feel like you have an obligation to be honest with people, or just not to talk about things you don't want to talk about. IE, it's perfectly ok to say, "religion is a personal thing to me, and I'd rather not get into it until we know each other better," and leave it at that.
Now, when they meet in a club and the woman's first words are, "buy me a drink," and the second are, "what do you do for a living?"... At that point, I feel like it's ok to be a little looser with the truth. IE, the fact that she won't talk to you unless you're willing to buy her things and that she's more concerned with how much money you make than who you are as a person make me lose all sympathy for her when her "doctor" turns out to flip burgers. But then again, I'd generally just excuse myself and walk away since, even though I have a good job, I'm not interested in women whose primary dating motivation is to find a man to support them financially.
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...and if you disagree with me, you're probably <insert random ad hominem attack here>.
I don't think this is a real story, but it involves some interesting concepts.
I think misrepresenting yourself on that level to get in someone's pants is selfish. When someone is making decisions about sex, they should be making the decisions based on a realistic understanding of who their partner is, and what their motives are. If you are an athiest, there are plenty of potential dates who are either also athiest, or flexible enough not to mind seeing someone with different ideas. If you are looking for a one night stand, or a sexual relationship with no strings attached, that's not too hard to find either.
Tricking somone who wouldn't be open to what you are looking for, and getting them in bed by lying is just wrong and pointless.
Idk, if they would break up with you because you aren't religion, then wouldn't it be the girl who is acting selfish?
It's a matter of opinion. Personally, I think you have a right to choose who you want a sexual relationship with based on compatability if you want. If wanting someone who shares your religious beliefs is part of your criteria, that's your own business.
It's not how I feel personally. I'm agnoistic, in a relationship with a gnostic. In the past I've dated christians, ahtiets, and a guy who literally invented his own religion. I don't care. But if someone does care, that's their right and they deserve the truth.
Being a christian, she's probably looking for someone who wants a marriage, a commited relationship, and someone into the whole family thing. She probably wants someone who shares her faith. If that's what she wants, pretending you can offer that to effect her decisions isn't right in my opinion.
Just go find someone compatible.
The Fonz?
No. He had pretty much nothing in common with the Fonz. In his religion, everyone's souls were represented by animals, and... well, I never discussed the rest. Our dating relationship was pretty turbulent and brief. He was a nice guy. Sweet and intelligent. But he was fragile, dramatic, and bi leaning gay as it turned out.
I met him and his boyfriend a few months ago and they seemed happy and looked like a much better match than he and I were. LOL!
I guess since we only dated twice, it doesn't seem fair to count him for this discussion. But the point was that the religious part was fine with me; even when he told me that in his eyes my totem animal was a flamingo, when I was expecting to be a lioness or something. At least he didn't say cougar. I would have killed him. I actually decided I liked the flamingo thing after I thought about it a while.
As horrible as it is alot of religions see homosexuality as a sin, so if he is Bi it only makes sense that he may have branched out a bit.
also..I'm 28...would you be a cougar for me? NOPE.
I don't think this is a real story, but it involves some interesting concepts.
I think misrepresenting yourself on that level to get in someone's pants is selfish. When someone is making decisions about sex, they should be making the decisions based on a realistic understanding of who their partner is, and what their motives are. If you are an athiest, there are plenty of potential dates who are either also athiest, or flexible enough not to mind seeing someone with different ideas. If you are looking for a one night stand, or a sexual relationship with no strings attached, that's not too hard to find either.
Tricking somone who wouldn't be open to what you are looking for, and getting them in bed by lying is just wrong and pointless.
Idk, if they would break up with you because you aren't religion, then wouldn't it be the girl who is acting selfish?
It's a matter of opinion. Personally, I think you have a right to choose who you want a sexual relationship with based on compatability if you want. If wanting someone who shares your religious beliefs is part of your criteria, that's your own business.
It's not how I feel personally. I'm agnoistic, in a relationship with a gnostic. In the past I've dated christians, ahtiets, and a guy who literally invented his own religion. I don't care. But if someone does care, that's their right and they deserve the truth.
Being a christian, she's probably looking for someone who wants a marriage, a commited relationship, and someone into the whole family thing. She probably wants someone who shares her faith. If that's what she wants, pretending you can offer that to effect her decisions isn't right in my opinion.
Just go find someone compatible.
The Fonz?
No. He had pretty much nothing in common with the Fonz. In his religion, everyone's souls were represented by animals, and... well, I never discussed the rest. Our dating relationship was pretty turbulent and brief. He was a nice guy. Sweet and intelligent. But he was fragile, dramatic, and bi leaning gay as it turned out.
I met him and his boyfriend a few months ago and they seemed happy and looked like a much better match than he and I were. LOL!
I guess since we only dated twice, it doesn't seem fair to count him for this discussion. But the point was that the religious part was fine with me; even when he told me that in his eyes my totem animal was a flamingo, when I was expecting to be a lioness or something. At least he didn't say cougar. I would have killed him. I actually decided I liked the flamingo thing after I thought about it a while.
As horrible as it is alot of religions see homosexuality as a sin, so if he is Bi it only makes sense that he may have branched out a bit.
also..I'm 28...would you be a cougar for me? NOPE.
I'm 21. I like cougars. Where do I fill out an application?
@Aerisot No, for someone 28 I wouldn't be a cougar. Ha! And you are right about his sexuality contributing to his creating his own religion.
@Red Panda LOL!
@Tanis I aggree with you that there are areas where bendign the truth a little doesn't seem as big a deal in the early parts of a relationship. It's very common, and the reality is that you have to be able to read between the lines a bit to figure out what you are actually getting into.
In your example, the girl sounds like someone who is just after money. This might sound harsh, but if you try to use someone, and they flip it and use you, that's just karma. I wouldn't feel any sympathy for her if she got lied to. And I also wouldn't feel bad for the burger flipping doctor, ir he burned all his paycheck trying to impress her and had to walk to work and starve all week. They bascially deesrve eachother.
@Aerisot No, for someone 28 I wouldn't be a cougar. Ha! And you are right about his sexuality contributing to his creating his own religion.
@Red Panda LOL!
@Tanis I aggree with you that there are areas where bendign the truth a little doesn't seem as big a deal in the early parts of a relationship. It's very common, and the reality is that you have to be able to read between the lines a bit to figure out what you are actually getting into.
In your example, the girl sounds like someone who is just after money. This might sound harsh, but if you try to use someone, and they flip it and use you, that's just karma. I wouldn't feel any sympathy for her if she got lied to. And I also wouldn't feel bad for the burger flipping doctor, ir he burned all his paycheck trying to impress her and had to walk to work and starve all week. They bascially deesrve eachother.
Stepping out of my Red Panda persona for a few minutes...
I think lying - no matter how small - Is detrimental to a relationship..
I don't do it - and if I ever feel like I need to, I'll end the relationship.
If I can't enjoy being with somebody for who they are and vice versa;
Then what is the point? A relationship is to form a bond of intimacy with both parties getting emotional and physical satisfaction (I don't necessarily mean intercourse) out of it.
I personally enjoy nothing more than holding a significant other.
I don't care if she is the most beautiful woman I've ever seen - if she is Christian/Catholic - I will NOT want anything to do with her.
-shrug- I also have a foot fetish. Maybe I'm just weird.
Assuming this is a true story... its kinda of funny. I mean..
Lying to someone to get laid, even considering entering the house of God to, at least, commit some sins... when a game called Diablo is about to get launched...
I bet Diablo himself left some of his minions behind, drooling, thinking about how you are going to suffer. Good luck, karma is a bitch. lol
Well this thread has gotten very popular hasn't it!
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Bashiok - Blizzard Representative - 08/01/2011 -"So how many skill combinations are there now? Well taking into account 6 active skills, all the rune combinations, and 3 passives we currently expect each class to have roughly 2,285,814,795,264 different build combinations."
"Hey, I thought you'd like the witty irony of grub-on-glowie violence!"
Assuming this is a true story... its kinda of funny. I mean..
Lying to someone to get laid, even considering entering the house of God to, at least, commit some sins... when a game called Diablo is about to get launched...
I bet Diablo himself left some of his minions behind, drooling, thinking about how you are going to suffer. Good luck, karma is a bitch. lol
ROFL! I cant help but to laugh when I meet someone who actually believes in eternal damnation. "You made a mistake and now you are going to burn in hell forever, while me and my boy Hitler, who apologized for out sins, will hang out up there in heaven."
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"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
Epicurus
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I agree with this on on most levels, but how far would you take that? I'm personally very honest, if not always open, because lieing makes me feel bad, I'm not good at it anyway and it generally kills my attraction to the other person if it would be necessary. I have friends that are less honest though, but it only bothers me in certain cases. For example, if you're meeting someone through social circles, or just bumping into them or whatever, I feel like you have an obligation to be honest with people, or just not to talk about things you don't want to talk about. IE, it's perfectly ok to say, "religion is a personal thing to me, and I'd rather not get into it until we know each other better," and leave it at that.
Now, when they meet in a club and the woman's first words are, "buy me a drink," and the second are, "what do you do for a living?"... At that point, I feel like it's ok to be a little looser with the truth. IE, the fact that she won't talk to you unless you're willing to buy her things and that she's more concerned with how much money you make than who you are as a person make me lose all sympathy for her when her "doctor" turns out to flip burgers. But then again, I'd generally just excuse myself and walk away since, even though I have a good job, I'm not interested in women whose primary dating motivation is to find a man to support them financially.
As horrible as it is alot of religions see homosexuality as a sin, so if he is Bi it only makes sense that he may have branched out a bit.
also..I'm 28...would you be a cougar for me? NOPE.
https://www.deviantart.com/aerisot
I'm 21. I like cougars. Where do I fill out an application?
Oh...you don't mean actual cougars? Well darn
@Red Panda LOL!
@Tanis I aggree with you that there are areas where bendign the truth a little doesn't seem as big a deal in the early parts of a relationship. It's very common, and the reality is that you have to be able to read between the lines a bit to figure out what you are actually getting into.
In your example, the girl sounds like someone who is just after money. This might sound harsh, but if you try to use someone, and they flip it and use you, that's just karma. I wouldn't feel any sympathy for her if she got lied to. And I also wouldn't feel bad for the burger flipping doctor, ir he burned all his paycheck trying to impress her and had to walk to work and starve all week. They bascially deesrve eachother.
Stepping out of my Red Panda persona for a few minutes...
I think lying - no matter how small - Is detrimental to a relationship..
I don't do it - and if I ever feel like I need to, I'll end the relationship.
If I can't enjoy being with somebody for who they are and vice versa;
Then what is the point? A relationship is to form a bond of intimacy with both parties getting emotional and physical satisfaction (I don't necessarily mean intercourse) out of it.
I personally enjoy nothing more than holding a significant other.
I don't care if she is the most beautiful woman I've ever seen - if she is Christian/Catholic - I will NOT want anything to do with her.
-shrug- I also have a foot fetish. Maybe I'm just weird.
...What? I...am not even going to attempt to understand why you said that.
Lying to someone to get laid, even considering entering the house of God to, at least, commit some sins... when a game called Diablo is about to get launched...
I bet Diablo himself left some of his minions behind, drooling, thinking about how you are going to suffer. Good luck, karma is a bitch. lol
Bashiok - Blizzard Representative - 08/01/2011 -"So how many skill combinations are there now? Well taking into account 6 active skills, all the rune combinations, and 3 passives we currently expect each class to have roughly 2,285,814,795,264 different build combinations."
"Hey, I thought you'd like the witty irony of grub-on-glowie violence!"
ROFL! I cant help but to laugh when I meet someone who actually believes in eternal damnation. "You made a mistake and now you are going to burn in hell forever, while me and my boy Hitler, who apologized for out sins, will hang out up there in heaven."
Epicurus