Man was made by the look of God. Man has a penis. Therefore, God has one too. Therefore, all creatures related to God, including all creatures who fell after being related to God, may have genitals.
If you really want to know, that just means that man has a spirit and a mind. God doesn't have sex and doesn't need to go to the bathroom, or he would be submiting himself to the laws of his own creation, which would be an oxymoron to his existence.
And I think that the picture you guys keep showing doesn't have a penis. If you look at the concept art, that is actually just some sort of spine/tail projection. It doesn't look like a penis at all to me.
Actually it looks like some really nasty crap coming out or something, lol.
It doesn't seem like anyone is really responding to the points I made in the first post.
Think of this scenario:
A guy wants to fight you. He's big and tough, extremely self-confident, and he hates you. He's gonna beat the shit out of you.
Now, which is scarier? More confronting?
A) He has nothing but a loincloth on, or
he is completely naked.
So either way you can see all his muscles and how much stronger he is than you.
Its similar to swearing, I suppose. More explicit content makes things scarier. I mean, come on, if everyone in the movie Scream were going around saying 'Goodness!' rather than 'holy fuck!', it would be a lot less scary.
I'm just having trouble being frightened by demons, they always seem made-up. I want them to be real.
Also, as I already said in my first post, reproduction doesn't really count. We know they don't reproduce like we do, but they still have the right organs. We know that Lilith and Uldyssian have had sex, therefore Lilith has a vagina, and we know that Succubi just want human men for sexual things, so we know that demons have/can have genitals (depending on the species). Mephisto reproduced, but obviously without genitalia because he doesn't even have a pelvis lol. He doesn't have organs, he's just a skeleton with a bit of muscle.
But yes, if demons were given them then they might look nasty, but not necessarily. That Baal's Minion's one (as I said in the first post) is too big and obvious. It only needs to be a little bit to be realistic. They seem more animalistic with them.
Angels true form don't even have physical bodies, so they can't be used to compare with demons.
EDIT: oOhhh, thats the picture I was originally looking for! Thanks Magistrate. Its hard to tell, but it certainly looks like its coming from the front. If its that size and coming from the front, then whatever it is, its the equivalent of a penis.
If you really want to know, that just means that man has a spirit and a mind. God doesn't have sex and doesn't need to go to the bathroom, or he would be submiting himself to the laws of his own creation, which would be an oxymoron to his existence.
If you really want to know, NO ONE knows what or who God is and whether or not does he follow the same laws as we do. And my personal belief is that God is just a programmer sitting behind his PC pooing into the bathroom eating chips while watching a game of "life"...
You should watch 13th floor or read "Multilayered World"
Now, which is scarier? More confronting?
A) He has nothing but a loincloth on, or
he is completely naked.
Isnt that the decision behind the Spartans Viking Berserkers and some Scottish Highlanders fighting naked, intimidation?
@ Magistrate.
Still it's location is offputting. It doesn't look like it's coming out of his back, looks like its protruding forward.
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Honestly, it doesn't really matter to me. See a demon naked or not...well, if you were to see anything from Diablo in real life, naked or not, it would scare the shit out of you. Period. Anyone who disagrees with this is a moron and just wants to defy me because they want to be difficult. I mean, if you woke up inthe middle of the night and had a pack of Carvers with axes and torches in their hands, and a Shaman casting fire balls at you, your first response wouldn't be "OMG, they aren't naked! Noobs.." No, you be scared, and then they'd slice you up.
I can see why you would say seeing all their muscle would be a sign of power, but they don't need to be naked to do that. They can wear a loin cloth.
And Demons might just reproduce in some kind of twisted spiritual sense, like they somehow have supernatural sex, and then that Demon is sent to infest a living creature, until it matures and the physical features are twisted and evil looking. Just a guess.
Still it's location is offputting. It doesn't look like it's coming out of his back, looks like its protruding forward.
I guess it's just a matter of opinion, then. I personally would assume it's just an extension of it's tailbone. I mean, anatomically, if the human tailbone kept growing at the angle it is, it would get that effect to some extent. But of course you'll all counter that by saying that we're dealing with a demon and not a human. Just my thoughts.
lol, it is true that I would be scared in real life, but thats kind of my point. I'm trying to imagine demons in real life, but I'm having trouble because my attention keeps getting drawn back to the fact that its a game and the designers dimmed it down a bit.
I vote no. Genitals exist for the purpose of reproducing, just as legs exist for walking and arms exist for grapping, swinging, flailing, whatever.
But, genitals are also used for pleasure (and excreting urine). Demons (especially followers of Azmodan) are full of sin, including lust. If I was a demon, I'd be pissed off to find that I don't have a penis lol.
Spartans Viking Berserkers and some Scottish Highlanders fighting naked? I haven't heard of anything about that sorry, but it sounds like the same thing as the scenerio I gave. Is it related to the Beserker thing you were talking about before? I should google that Beserker thing.
I can see why you would say seeing all their muscle would be a sign of power, but they don't need to be naked to do that. They can wear a loin cloth.
But is it not more confronting? Does it not make you cower just that little bit more? I suppose different cultures have different views, some say its a sign of being vulnerable, others say its more... manly? But, this game is for this audience, us here, with our culture. So is it or is it not more confronting?
But is it not more confronting? Does it not make you cower just that little bit more? I suppose different cultures have different views, some say its a sign of being vulnerable, others say its more... manly? But, this game is for this audience, us here, with our culture. So is it or is it not more confronting?
No, it doesn't. I don't need a dick dangling in front of me to realize that Diablo could blow me to smitherines with his Red Lightning. If anything it would make me laugh at him, but in all honesty, that really doesn't matter, because I'd be too busy running.
Think of this scenario:
A guy wants to fight you. He's big and tough, extremely self-confident, and he hates you. He's gonna beat the shit out of you.
Now, which is scarier? More confronting?
A) He has nothing but a loincloth on, or
he is completely naked.
So either way you can see all his muscles and how much stronger he is than you.
I think in a "real-life Diablo" scenario, nudity would scare me more. Of course, this is mostly based on the concept art Magistrate posted; if a demon with something like that between his legs were coming after me, I'd run for the hills, all while thinking, Oh, God, what's he going to do with that thing!?
I don't know. Something about a demon with a loincloth seems to tell me that they have some modesty and courtesy ("Oh, thank you for taking the time to cover up your dangly bits before smiting me"). Nudity seems more savage, more beast-like.
Though, based on the concept art, I can see it as either a penis or a tail/tailbone piece. Either way, I wouldn't want it near my girl-parts (or any parts, thank you very much).
I think in a "real-life Diablo" scenario, nudity would scare me more. Of course, this is mostly based on the concept art Magistrate posted; if a demon with something like that between his legs were coming after me, I'd run for the hills, all while thinking, Oh, God, what's he going to do with that thing!?
lol, yeah, see, it is scarier. so now the question is, do you want to be that scared while playing the game? i know its kind of different, but still?
I don't know. Something about a demon with a loincloth seems to tell me that they have some modesty and courtesy ("Oh, thank you for taking the time to cover up your dangly bits before smiting me"). Nudity seems more savage, more beast-like.
Yeah, makes sense. The Great Evils are smarter than the lowly ones, and I'd imagine Azmodan to be quite handsome. So, you would vote for number 3? that the minor, more savage demons would be nude, while the Great Evils wouldn't?
Though, based on the concept art, I can see it as either a penis or a tail/tailbone piece. Either way, I wouldn't want it near my girl-parts (or any parts, thank you very much).
lol, yeah, see, it is scarier. so now the question is, do you want to be that scared while playing the game? i know its kind of different, but still?
That's a good question. I think I'm more indifferent toward the situation if it were in a game setting. It could just be that game monsters (especially lesser-demon fodder) typically won't be alive long enough for anyone to take much notice. Or it's just the fact that genitals don't bother me or squick me out in the slightest (thank you, internet).
I have to admit, though, being that scared in a game setting would be all kinds of awesome. It'd be like playing Silent Hill for the first time all over again; nothing compares to that first part with the chain-link fence. Having that feeling during a game really creates a sense of urgency and/or distress, which makes you all the more determined to either slay the evils of the world or to get the hell out of there before you're eaten alive.
I know we all remember the first time we played the original Diablo, and The Butcher came charging out at us with his "fresh meat!" cry. As pixelated/polygonal as it was, it created that same type of urgency (which is why I died :D). /mini-tangent.
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Yeah, makes sense. The Great Evils are smarter than the lowly ones, and I'd imagine Azmodan to be quite handsome. So, you would vote for number 3? that the minor, more savage demons would be nude, while the Great Evils wouldn't?
Actually, I voted for the second option, for the above reasons. Though, what you're saying makes plenty of sense, so the third option would also be something I'd vote for (if I could). I think that option would fit best in a game setting, though. I mean, imagine fighting Diablo with a melee character; he's much taller than you are, so where do you think you'll be aiming?
well, his tail/penis thing is really oddly lighted up. Either its really light, or its just the palest part of him. It shouldn't be that bright though, so I guess its just pale?
ohh, I haven't played silent hill. I love the movie though. I think I should play it.
I wish I could change my vote, now I wanna vote for 2.
did he see it in-game, or just on Mt Arreat? I wanna see it in-game, but haven't bothered to try to go there myself. I probably should.
Curiosity got the better of me, so I checked this morning while I was playing, lol. They have no tail, so guess what? It's a penis! Yay! Problem solved.
Proof:
In-game shots of the Bloody Foothills. I lightened the second image to show that they don't have tails. Nope, just green buttocks.
I had a hard time getting this monster to turn around to get a picture. let alone trying to get him to smack me. I guess he's shy. How cute.
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The poll was made to find out if people want to see more penises or not.
lolol, it sounds immature when I say it like that.
Lol, I laugh every time I see this topic. A serious discussion about demon-junk? Hell, yeah. It's great. Am I weird for actually enjoying it? And researching in-game? Lol.
It's the decisions you make when you have no time to make them that define who you are.
If you really want to know, that just means that man has a spirit and a mind. God doesn't have sex and doesn't need to go to the bathroom, or he would be submiting himself to the laws of his own creation, which would be an oxymoron to his existence.
And I think that the picture you guys keep showing doesn't have a penis. If you look at the concept art, that is actually just some sort of spine/tail projection. It doesn't look like a penis at all to me.
Actually it looks like some really nasty crap coming out or something, lol.
It doesn't seem like anyone is really responding to the points I made in the first post.
Think of this scenario:
A guy wants to fight you. He's big and tough, extremely self-confident, and he hates you. He's gonna beat the shit out of you.
Now, which is scarier? More confronting?
A) He has nothing but a loincloth on, or
he is completely naked.
So either way you can see all his muscles and how much stronger he is than you.
Its similar to swearing, I suppose. More explicit content makes things scarier. I mean, come on, if everyone in the movie Scream were going around saying 'Goodness!' rather than 'holy fuck!', it would be a lot less scary.
I'm just having trouble being frightened by demons, they always seem made-up. I want them to be real.
Also, as I already said in my first post, reproduction doesn't really count. We know they don't reproduce like we do, but they still have the right organs. We know that Lilith and Uldyssian have had sex, therefore Lilith has a vagina, and we know that Succubi just want human men for sexual things, so we know that demons have/can have genitals (depending on the species). Mephisto reproduced, but obviously without genitalia because he doesn't even have a pelvis lol. He doesn't have organs, he's just a skeleton with a bit of muscle.
But yes, if demons were given them then they might look nasty, but not necessarily. That Baal's Minion's one (as I said in the first post) is too big and obvious. It only needs to be a little bit to be realistic. They seem more animalistic with them.
Angels true form don't even have physical bodies, so they can't be used to compare with demons.
EDIT: oOhhh, thats the picture I was originally looking for! Thanks Magistrate. Its hard to tell, but it certainly looks like its coming from the front. If its that size and coming from the front, then whatever it is, its the equivalent of a penis.
You should watch 13th floor or read "Multilayered World"
Isnt that the decision behind the Spartans Viking Berserkers and some Scottish Highlanders fighting naked, intimidation?
@ Magistrate.
Still it's location is offputting. It doesn't look like it's coming out of his back, looks like its protruding forward.
I can see why you would say seeing all their muscle would be a sign of power, but they don't need to be naked to do that. They can wear a loin cloth.
And Demons might just reproduce in some kind of twisted spiritual sense, like they somehow have supernatural sex, and then that Demon is sent to infest a living creature, until it matures and the physical features are twisted and evil looking. Just a guess.
I guess it's just a matter of opinion, then. I personally would assume it's just an extension of it's tailbone. I mean, anatomically, if the human tailbone kept growing at the angle it is, it would get that effect to some extent. But of course you'll all counter that by saying that we're dealing with a demon and not a human. Just my thoughts.
But, genitals are also used for pleasure (and excreting urine). Demons (especially followers of Azmodan) are full of sin, including lust. If I was a demon, I'd be pissed off to find that I don't have a penis lol.
Spartans Viking Berserkers and some Scottish Highlanders fighting naked? I haven't heard of anything about that sorry, but it sounds like the same thing as the scenerio I gave. Is it related to the Beserker thing you were talking about before? I should google that Beserker thing.
But is it not more confronting? Does it not make you cower just that little bit more? I suppose different cultures have different views, some say its a sign of being vulnerable, others say its more... manly? But, this game is for this audience, us here, with our culture. So is it or is it not more confronting?
No, it doesn't. I don't need a dick dangling in front of me to realize that Diablo could blow me to smitherines with his Red Lightning. If anything it would make me laugh at him, but in all honesty, that really doesn't matter, because I'd be too busy running.
I think in a "real-life Diablo" scenario, nudity would scare me more. Of course, this is mostly based on the concept art Magistrate posted; if a demon with something like that between his legs were coming after me, I'd run for the hills, all while thinking, Oh, God, what's he going to do with that thing!?
I don't know. Something about a demon with a loincloth seems to tell me that they have some modesty and courtesy ("Oh, thank you for taking the time to cover up your dangly bits before smiting me"). Nudity seems more savage, more beast-like.
Though, based on the concept art, I can see it as either a penis or a tail/tailbone piece. Either way, I wouldn't want it near my girl-parts (or any parts, thank you very much).
Yeah, makes sense. The Great Evils are smarter than the lowly ones, and I'd imagine Azmodan to be quite handsome. So, you would vote for number 3? that the minor, more savage demons would be nude, while the Great Evils wouldn't?
hahaha
That's a good question. I think I'm more indifferent toward the situation if it were in a game setting. It could just be that game monsters (especially lesser-demon fodder) typically won't be alive long enough for anyone to take much notice. Or it's just the fact that genitals don't bother me or squick me out in the slightest (thank you, internet).
I have to admit, though, being that scared in a game setting would be all kinds of awesome. It'd be like playing Silent Hill for the first time all over again; nothing compares to that first part with the chain-link fence. Having that feeling during a game really creates a sense of urgency and/or distress, which makes you all the more determined to either slay the evils of the world or to get the hell out of there before you're eaten alive.
I know we all remember the first time we played the original Diablo, and The Butcher came charging out at us with his "fresh meat!" cry. As pixelated/polygonal as it was, it created that same type of urgency (which is why I died :D). /mini-tangent.
Actually, I voted for the second option, for the above reasons. Though, what you're saying makes plenty of sense, so the third option would also be something I'd vote for (if I could). I think that option would fit best in a game setting, though. I mean, imagine fighting Diablo with a melee character; he's much taller than you are, so where do you think you'll be aiming?
ohh, I haven't played silent hill. I love the movie though. I think I should play it.
I wish I could change my vote, now I wanna vote for 2.
The poll was made to find out if people want to see more penises or not.
lolol, it sounds immature when I say it like that.
Curiosity got the better of me, so I checked this morning while I was playing, lol. They have no tail, so guess what? It's a penis! Yay! Problem solved.
Proof:
In-game shots of the Bloody Foothills. I lightened the second image to show that they don't have tails. Nope, just green buttocks.
I had a hard time getting this monster to turn around to get a picture. let alone trying to get him to smack me. I guess he's shy. How cute.
Lol, I laugh every time I see this topic. A serious discussion about demon-junk? Hell, yeah. It's great.
Am I weird for actually enjoying it? And researching in-game? Lol.