Well I think I've found my class now, was hoping for a more knightly class but I'm confident the monk will be engaging to play as.
I hope this class will be all about channeled attacks through their staff or whatever other weapon(s) they use, and not have any hand-to-hand combat skills tbh, fighting against demons like that just never seemed fitting to me.
As for lore, I'm betting the monk will be a disciple of Zakarum (think holy bolt, its a staple of this series) like the paladin, but studying in seclusion somewhere instead, and will be more spiritually inept (kind of a given really). My guess is that he/she will be from somewhere near or in that mountain region near Ureh.
I hope they don't go cheese though and just spin the lore off from that monk in the old D1 xpac.
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And hopefully they'll keep that from happening again....really it depends on how rarely these runes will drop, ideally enough to keep them from becoming synonymous to SoJs, but not enough for them to be discarded later on as excess baggage.
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I agree with you (OP) to that but most things that have been added for that are seen as tedious by most, though don't bother me much, and the Devs realizing that are just removing those aspects all together. The way they talk about implementing quests seems like a major way they will use to break ppl away from the, Point A to Point B, level race.
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You'd have enough money to buy D3?
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It's pretty obvious from excerpts taken from the books (yeah I've read some) that the angels war against demons because of their relentles, self interest only, and chaotic nature. the war is an everlasting reaction to these ever lusting, nonstop, offensive beings.
Though they have not shown any case of committing malevelont acts,. Again, give me some specific examples using your 'knowledge in lore' besides essentially saying, "I've read the books so this is why this is true". Show me a situation where the angels attacked a being just because....or where they have taken action against someone or something without the reason being illustrated through conversation of some type.
But why is that part of Heaven so focused on wanting to destroy the Nephalem and Sanctuary? Because they are part demonic blood and could potentially possess the same corruptive nature. And I already stated that Inarius is an exclusion because he is not part of the consensus.
How is acting against potential corruptive threats "striving for power"?
Like I keep stating, you don't have to know every bit of lore to gain an understanding of what the angels nature is. It is shown through plenty of dialogue that their actions are reactions to potential or immediate threats (the consensus). But you have to have an independent perspective instead of that of seemingly an inhabitant of Sanctuary to see that.
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In that, I was addressing those who claim that there is no difference between angel and demon except for their looks, in which your stance seemed to be somewhat supportive of.
And again, you don't need to be a scholar in all of the books to gain an understanding of why they do what they do. Through the storyline and some of the lore which can be found just about anywhere on the net, it is shown that they are of a defensive nature. Pose no threat, and they wish you no harm. That makes them alot better than the other type in my book.
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All we need to know is why they do what they do, which is common knowledge from the D storylines and from exerpts taken from the books, in which everything the angels do is a reaction (talking about the consensus, not including those like Inarius). Their intent is to deal with any threats against them, which in turn is a threat to the establishment of order and structure. The reason Sanctuary is a target in question for them is because people (Nephalem) have the potential to be more powerful than both angel and demon, without any preset dedication to either side, meaning there is potential for powerful, self interested only, and corruptive people. So you got one part of heaven that wants to eliminate the whole batch to get rid of the potential "bad apples", and one side that wants to perserve the good ones. Sorry for us that we're on the pointy end side of this debate. Again, you can keep tapdancing around the "means" but its the understanding of the "ends" or the end result that they are trying to achieve that showcases what their nature is. This is totally different from a being that only thirsts for power and chaos.
And the irony here is that you claim that I have a biased view of what's "good" and "evil", when you and the others are judging what you claim to be "good" or "evil" purely based on who is currently either "friend" or "foe".
Which is the same Heaven I'm talking about. And like I stated above, the reason so many in Heaven aren't too happy with Sanctuary being in existence, is because of all the potential threats it contains.
Instead of the repetitive "Go read the books" response, why don't you use the knowledge you have from these stories to counter my arguments. You're almost making it look like you can't.
Despite what some of you seem to assume, my position comes from the FACT that one entity leads to a "positive" atmosphere, while the other leads to a "negative" one. It can be seen just by reading exerpts describing Heaven in the D universe as a place where you can hear "children laughing, and people singing", which in FACT details a positive, euphoric atmosphere. Being that Heaven is the realm that exudes the very nature and desired atmosphere of that of the angels, its obvious that their ''ends'' in which they aim to achieve is a positive one, making them totally different to that of demons.
To sum it up,the difference is that if there is a particular being deemed to be harmless, the angels will leave it alone because it doesn't pose any threat to them, while a demon most likely would see it as usless then would want to dispose of it, yet if there is an entity that possesses the potential to be a powerful threat, the angels would want to have it dealt with as they see fit, while demons would want to control it and use it for their purposes alone.
Obvious difference between the two.
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I'm basing it on the fact that any right minded person agrees that a place of order and peace, where you don't bother someone who doesn't bother you, is to be desired over a place filled with torment and chaos.
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There is an obivous difference between the intent of the angels and those of demons. The angels aim to bring order while the demons aim to bring forth chaos. You can argue the means all you want but the ends define their true nature. The angels fight to destroy anything that threatens them, which would in turn threaten the existence of order and peace. So the fighting they do is actually "defensive offense".
The angels see Sanctuary as a threat because of the potential power the people have coupled with the selfish interest that some may possess. People who end up like the Summoner, is what they're worried about.
The reason Imperius is so passionate with his intent to destroy Sanctuary, I believe, is because he prepresents the offensive nature of heaven, while Tyrael represents the defensive side.
Bottom line though....angels and demons have totally different intentions, so stop trying to put them in the same boat just to make them all around enemies of us (The Heroes).
Emilemil1, you're the only one in here who has this understanding....don't let any of these others push you into thinking the way they do.
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So yeah, it'll be the mage class. Get ready to see what cool flashies they got.
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By saying I want him back though, I don't mean I want some of his skills to be as powerful as they were in D2, I just like the class. But they'd have a completely different skill system for him anyways, with maybe a few if any returning skills.
As far as I've seen either lightning was in its own class, or fell under the Air/Wind category, and poison had its own slot.
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Besides that....
....they're probably trying to avoid this by making him a little cooler to play.
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Actually that might not be too fatfetched, I could see us having to fight a corrupted necro rallying up an army of undead.
Won't be a problem with the reintroduction of my Pally....(crossing fingers).
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Well not for me yet....evertime I watch that trailer I get more and more excited in anticipation of slaying up some invading demons.
Also, being motivated to go back and complete some goals in D2 that I never did finish, is keeping me occupied and still sitting in anticipation.