Awesome stuff Sixen and the team this is great stuff alot to read and I don't mind the RWT auction house because a game i'll play for a while while allow me to get some money for my time played doesn't sound bad at all.
I just don't want money to take over the gold auction house and no one sells anything good on there, that would be horrible for people who don't have alot of money.
There are free listings that will allow you to sell items even if you haven't paid a dime. Then you can take your auction proceedings as e-balance that will be attached to your Blizzard account. Then you can just use your e-balance as you'd use any in-game currency.
And e-balance can be used to pay for Diablo 3 expansion packs, other Blizzard games and merchandise, but not cashed out.
Oh so I can sell a in-game item for a e-balance but why not sell for real money instead and just use that real money for everything that the e-balance can but more?
I would like to say, first and foremost, that I am very grateful that I follow Diablofans for all of my D3 news.
In my opinion, I think the RMT auction house is a good idea. I would much rather pay for my items in a medium that granted me safety. Also, I'm glad that we do have a town portal system now.
Anyway, I'm still really excited. I'm not slighted in the least about the RMT auction house because I feel that Blizzard, at least, has good intentions.
And nice beard, Kevin.
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I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
Oh so I can sell a in-game item for a e-balance but why not sell for real money instead and just use that real money for everything that the e-balance can but more?
or did I read what you said wrong?
You can get cash, but that cash will have to be converted back to e-balance if you want to buy items with it. Since a fee will be applied on the transfer of actual cash, doing so all the time will result in less total e-balance acquired for you.
PlugY for Diablo II allows you to reset skills and stats, transfer items between characters in singleplayer, obtain all ladder runewords and do all Uberquests while offline. It is the only way to do all of the above. Please use it.
Supporting big shoulderpads and flashy armor since 2004.
AWWW yea!
Good to see some details out. The room I'm in was dark, but now i can't tell whether it has just been enlightened.. or darkened by knowledge that the apocalypse is nearing; that is the day Diablo 3 comes out.
Oh so I can sell a in-game item for a e-balance but why not sell for real money instead and just use that real money for everything that the e-balance can but more?
or did I read what you said wrong?
It will be cheaper to use e-balance, Blizzard will take less of a cut with it. Also, you can't store cash in your account, but only e-balance. So you will have to deposit and take the cash out with a small cut each time if you want to use pure cash. Kinda standard model.
Blizzard themselves aren't really sure how the real money auction house will do financially.
Ya I kind of figured they would take less of a cut which in the end will give you more outcome in your auction but there will have to be a huge cut in real money auctions so that e-balance will actually be worth taking instead.
1 available purchase of items discourages selling of gold for real cash
2 selling of gold would have been inevitable with creation of AH and this will keep prices down
3 only stupid or obsessed (with exceptions) people would buy it, which means they would probably play to obsessive amounts or buy from dodgy sites eventually.
4 gold will be valuable because people who want to continue playing the game will resell items for gold instead of money should they consider gameplay time more valuable (fun time is priceless)
So I can use the E-balance to buy stuff from the Blizzard store or I can sell items and make real money that, in the future, can be completely tangible by me?
I have absolutely no problem with that (if that is how it works).
And I really want to see the lunch video
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I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
Ya I kind of figured they would take less of a cut which in the end will give you more outcome in your auction but there will have to be a huge cut in real money auctions so that e-balance will actually be worth taking instead.
It all depends. As far as I've understood you can just store the e-balance and convert it into cash by buying items with it, then setting the system to cash-out and selling those items. Unless the choice between e-balance and cash is permanent (which I doubt it is).
Ahh I see so why not just give an e-balance instead of real world money? It'd be easier for Blizzard to send it to your account than to send it to your paypal or send as a check.
I mean if the e-balance is smooth and I can either use it as real life money and as cash towards the game that would be perfect.
Why do I guys want to pay at all. What's the point in playing? I just don't get it. The whole focus is working on gear and yet they cut that element out by letting u purchase stuff rather than earn it
Wow i don't know if I am going to even play D3 . First i'd like to mention that, while I hate the RMT system, I can live with it even if I will spend no money on items. Then, the part that strikes me the most is when Jay Wilson states that he has no, I MEAN NO, interest in pvp. He stated that he will FIGHT AGAINST it becoming an e-sport. He stated that there will be no rankings. He stated that THERE WILL ONLY BE INFO ON HOW MANY MATCHES YOU WON NOT HOW MANY LOSSES BECAUSE PEOPLE TEND TO CARE MORE ABOUT THEIR WINS HE FELT PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE HAVING A LOT OF LOSSES SO HE WON'T SHOW THAT. Why would he FIGHT AGAINST PVP. The only reason why D2 is still "alive" and some people still play it is because of PvP not to mention the amount of PvP builds that one can try (builds also get drasticly reduced on D3. Then he states that what you gain from runes will be sort of random because he felt people didn't want to know what did every rune do exactly. His disregard for pvp is pathetic. GOD THIS GAME WILL BE WAY TOO CASUAL.
So what are people gonna aspire to. "IM GOING TO GET THE BEST ITEMS IN THE GAME TO..." Basically there's no to ___ part because what you're gonna get better items to slay EASY monsters a bit harder than the next person. Most people will now get items just for the sake of "having better items".
How about this game is going to be fucking amazing, excuse my language. I like every change that has been made and all the new implementations that have been made. It seems they have also done a good job of adjusting the lore so it doesn't degrade the diablo 1 and 2 story lines. The new direction that has been taken with the skills and passive abilities is sick.. it opens up for more customization. From the concept art to the beta screen shots and game play video it just looks like it is going to be so epic. It seems by how Sixen described it that the BETA is just a bite sized chunk of act 1 but nevertheless a tasty bite sized chunk indeed!!!
I know that Sixen has already thanked those who made it all this possible from kickin_it to cyberdragon, doomscream, jay wilson, bashiok, force and PR. ryan, but i would like to extend my thanks to those listed (including sixen :D) and all those among the diablo 3 development team! awesome job guys. Your hard work is most appreciated BRING ON THE BETA
I am categorically disappointed with what I've read here. Specifically, the 6-skill 3 trait limitation coupled with the fact that you get ALL SKILLS and they scale with level or gear. It's more auto-stat distribution ideas. What is this, a cell-phone flash game?
And don't even get me started on the real gold AH. The interview with Jay Wilson made the RGAH sound even WORSE than I could have possibly imagined it. He sounded so incredibly smug about it in his responses. I could tell from the way he answered that he is just a shrewd business man.
I'm not especially convinced this is a game I even want to play any more. I'm not mad, or disappointed.. Just surprised at these continual development choices which seem to be creating a game I don't want to play.
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"Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions."
-Thomas Jefferson
I am categorically disappointed with what I've read here. Specifically, the 6-skill 3 trait limitation coupled with the fact that you get ALL SKILLS and they scale with level or gear. It's more auto-stat distribution ideas. What is this, a cell-phone flash game?
And don't even get me started on the real gold AH. The interview with Jay Wilson made the RGAH sound even WORSE than I could have possibly imagined it. He sounded so incredibly smug about it in his responses. I could tell from the way he answered that he is just a shrewd business man.
I'm not especially convinced this is a game I even want to play any more. I'm not mad, or disappointed.. Just surprised at these continual development choices which seem to be creating a game I don't want to play.
Your looking at it at a bad POV, you can make money from a game you love to play and will play for a while so why not get money out of it if you can?
I can't say I'm disappointed in the news but I can't say I'm ecstatic either. I don't like his plans for the rune system. I think it would be much better the way it is, or just randomize the damage bonus or whatever it gives. I want to put in an indigo rune on my ray of frost because it lets it become a vortex of frost, not an obsidian rune. I'm not a big fan of the real world money AH only because in the end game that will be where people post those high level items because they are actually of worth and could sell for highest prices. Overall very good info i love everything so far besides the rune and Real world AH systems. AND I LOVE THE BATTLE.NET LAYOUT ITS SO AWESHUMS!!!!
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I think everyone here raging about the RMT AH and how it's going to break the game is completely missing the fucking point.
Whether Blizzard includes an RMT AH in Diablo 3 or not, people will buy items for real money. This is a fucking proven fact. If some dude wants to drop $100 to deck out his Barb so he can shitpound people in PvP, he's going to do it anyway.
So, instead of having people deal with shady ass farming sites like Mulefactory, who completely shit up BNet with their fucking ever-present spam bots, or shitty communities with bogus currency systems (looking right at you, JSP), why not deal with the company that made the game? Furthermore, you can even make some IRL cash out of it if you choose to. Again, it's not fucking mandatory.
Could there be problems? Abso-fucking-lutely. But don't you think Blizzard will be more apt at fixing economic or systemic problems than the community seeing as how they have a monstrously huge personal investment in its success?
Oh nice, now I can make money when I play the game. And if I'm good, it can become a full time thing.
and to those pessimists going on about "why play at all, they let you purchase stuff rather than earn in", just don't use the f'n system. We had the same thing is Diablo II, why let that ruin your D3 experience? Or are you playing for the sole aspect of "I played for hours and found something before you hahahahahahahaha trolololol?" Buncha candy-asses...
And as for pvp, I do think they should work on it and give it backing. I mean, I know tournaments are going to be set up regardless of official backing or not (assuming you can make your own match and it's not some random bs). Sure, pvpers can buy items, but those are the same items that other people found (no different than Diablo II). You can spend a few bucks to save a few hours from my point of view...
It's not like they will put Über Epic items on for $500 that are 50x more powerful than you can find in the game... They will be putting items on that you can find in the game yourself, and buying them is purely for convenience.
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Oh so I can sell a in-game item for a e-balance but why not sell for real money instead and just use that real money for everything that the e-balance can but more?
or did I read what you said wrong?
Monk > Wizard > Barbarian > Demon Hunter > Witch Doctor
In my opinion, I think the RMT auction house is a good idea. I would much rather pay for my items in a medium that granted me safety. Also, I'm glad that we do have a town portal system now.
Anyway, I'm still really excited. I'm not slighted in the least about the RMT auction house because I feel that Blizzard, at least, has good intentions.
And nice beard, Kevin.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
Good to see some details out. The room I'm in was dark, but now i can't tell whether it has just been enlightened.. or darkened by knowledge that the apocalypse is nearing; that is the day Diablo 3 comes out.
Ya I kind of figured they would take less of a cut which in the end will give you more outcome in your auction but there will have to be a huge cut in real money auctions so that e-balance will actually be worth taking instead.
Monk > Wizard > Barbarian > Demon Hunter > Witch Doctor
1 available purchase of items discourages selling of gold for real cash
2 selling of gold would have been inevitable with creation of AH and this will keep prices down
3 only stupid or obsessed (with exceptions) people would buy it, which means they would probably play to obsessive amounts or buy from dodgy sites eventually.
4 gold will be valuable because people who want to continue playing the game will resell items for gold instead of money should they consider gameplay time more valuable (fun time is priceless)
5... there are lots more reasons but im tired!
I have absolutely no problem with that (if that is how it works).
And I really want to see the lunch video
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
Ahh I see so why not just give an e-balance instead of real world money? It'd be easier for Blizzard to send it to your account than to send it to your paypal or send as a check.
I mean if the e-balance is smooth and I can either use it as real life money and as cash towards the game that would be perfect.
Monk > Wizard > Barbarian > Demon Hunter > Witch Doctor
Thanks Caniroth for the awesome sig!
So what are people gonna aspire to. "IM GOING TO GET THE BEST ITEMS IN THE GAME TO..." Basically there's no to ___ part because what you're gonna get better items to slay EASY monsters a bit harder than the next person. Most people will now get items just for the sake of "having better items".
fucking pathetic
How about this game is going to be fucking amazing, excuse my language. I like every change that has been made and all the new implementations that have been made. It seems they have also done a good job of adjusting the lore so it doesn't degrade the diablo 1 and 2 story lines. The new direction that has been taken with the skills and passive abilities is sick.. it opens up for more customization. From the concept art to the beta screen shots and game play video it just looks like it is going to be so epic. It seems by how Sixen described it that the BETA is just a bite sized chunk of act 1 but nevertheless a tasty bite sized chunk indeed!!!
I know that Sixen has already thanked those who made it all this possible from kickin_it to cyberdragon, doomscream, jay wilson, bashiok, force and PR. ryan, but i would like to extend my thanks to those listed (including sixen :D) and all those among the diablo 3 development team! awesome job guys. Your hard work is most appreciated BRING ON THE BETA
And don't even get me started on the real gold AH. The interview with Jay Wilson made the RGAH sound even WORSE than I could have possibly imagined it. He sounded so incredibly smug about it in his responses. I could tell from the way he answered that he is just a shrewd business man.
I'm not especially convinced this is a game I even want to play any more. I'm not mad, or disappointed.. Just surprised at these continual development choices which seem to be creating a game I don't want to play.
-Thomas Jefferson
Your looking at it at a bad POV, you can make money from a game you love to play and will play for a while so why not get money out of it if you can?
Monk > Wizard > Barbarian > Demon Hunter > Witch Doctor
Whether Blizzard includes an RMT AH in Diablo 3 or not, people will buy items for real money. This is a fucking proven fact. If some dude wants to drop $100 to deck out his Barb so he can shitpound people in PvP, he's going to do it anyway.
So, instead of having people deal with shady ass farming sites like Mulefactory, who completely shit up BNet with their fucking ever-present spam bots, or shitty communities with bogus currency systems (looking right at you, JSP), why not deal with the company that made the game? Furthermore, you can even make some IRL cash out of it if you choose to. Again, it's not fucking mandatory.
Could there be problems? Abso-fucking-lutely. But don't you think Blizzard will be more apt at fixing economic or systemic problems than the community seeing as how they have a monstrously huge personal investment in its success?
and to those pessimists going on about "why play at all, they let you purchase stuff rather than earn in", just don't use the f'n system. We had the same thing is Diablo II, why let that ruin your D3 experience? Or are you playing for the sole aspect of "I played for hours and found something before you hahahahahahahaha trolololol?" Buncha candy-asses...
And as for pvp, I do think they should work on it and give it backing. I mean, I know tournaments are going to be set up regardless of official backing or not (assuming you can make your own match and it's not some random bs). Sure, pvpers can buy items, but those are the same items that other people found (no different than Diablo II). You can spend a few bucks to save a few hours from my point of view...
It's not like they will put Über Epic items on for $500 that are 50x more powerful than you can find in the game... They will be putting items on that you can find in the game yourself, and buying them is purely for convenience.