Righto. A while ago. Start of december i was in a discussion about loot 2.0 aka pre-expansion patch and when it would be released. I said it would be released end of january to mid february. Then rage occured and i was told that i was stupid. Because of ah shutdown the 18th of march.
This is the first message i recieved: The pre-patch won't happen till the AH is removed. So, pre-patch is on or around 3/18. You really think they will release loot 2.0 and let you buy/sell that stuff BEFORE they remove the AH? No Way.
Where i answered: Legendaries will be bound on account. Can only be traded with people in your game when the item dropped for up to 2 hours. Yellow items wont be the best anymore(posibly). So give me ONE good reason ah need to be shut down before loot 2.0 coems out ?
And then this was said back: because even if yellows won't be as good as legendaries, you don't want people gearing in the first 3 days of prepatch with new yellow and thrash everything apart legendaries. New loot system implies no AH. I'm sure that if they wanted they could have put out the pre exp patch before the 18 march, but for closing the AH and especially the RM one they had to give a 6 month time to people. 18th march is 6months and one day after the announcement. If they want to put up a clean new loot system, AH needs to be gone before the patch. This way everyone will have a fresh start and no much advantage because better gear can make ou farm better, but still everyone has to farm. in the other case, on day 1 you would see all people that have stockpiled gold to burn it out in AH for new gear (even if it's not orange).
It makes sense sortoff, Right. But we are forgetting one rather important thing. On the 25th we can start leveling to lvl 70, Meaning all gear you have bought on the ah in the pre-patch is obsolete. Yes, you may be a op lvl 60 char. But who cares about those refusing going forward when a new expansion is released. Blizzard sure aint. It may hurt, but its the truth
So do you also think we wont see the loot/paragon 2.0 patch before they shut down ah or before ?
I agree with your argument that it COULD be released prior to the AH removal with no real implications on the game. But, having played blizzard games a long time and followed these kinds of things, I also know how blizzard likes to do things. I think it unlikely that we will see the pre-patch before the AH removal.
That being said, I'm holding out hope that this is not the case and we do see it before then. The announcement that pre-download of the patch should begin sometime this month gives me hope. But I'm not going to hold my breath.
Well, they at least have an AH button in the PTR/beta client, so they at least seem to have thought about bringing it out before the AH is gone. Of course, rares could still be sold, but, I figure demand for even those would tank pretty fast, since they're not so hard to get in-game with the patch...
I heard someone claiming to be an Activision employee saying Feb 12th for the 2.0 patch on live, but, that is completely unconfirmed and rumor-like information. No way to substantiate the person's claim.
If you guys did not read it yet, front page blue says the client will be updated by the end of this month. Meaning that the activation of the patch can be any time from the end of this month to the release of RoS itself. As posted above me, the PTR/Beta client, still have an AH tab ingame and in files, it is entirely possible the patch will launch with it.
I remember seeing the below blue here on diablofans.
'We've no additional patches planned before the pre-expansion patch (which will include Loot 2.0 and Paragon 2.0, plus a variety of other system changes and tuning). There isn't a date set for that yet, mostly because it's still under development. Reaper of Souls isn't scheduled to release until 2014, though, and our pre-expansion patches typically hit between 2 weeks to 2 months before -- so that should help give you a better time frame.'
Seeing as the AH will be taken down on the 18th, that almost guarantee's it to be released for at least 1 week before the AH removal and at best in early Feb. This is Subject to change of course, I would and I would expect it to be in the same day the AH is exploded into the void
I remember seeing the below blue here on diablofans.
'We've no additional patches planned before the pre-expansion patch (which will include Loot 2.0 and Paragon 2.0, plus a variety of other system changes and tuning). There isn't a date set for that yet, mostly because it's still under development. Reaper of Souls isn't scheduled to release until 2014, though, and our pre-expansion patches typically hit between 2 weeks to 2 months before -- so that should help give you a better time frame.'
Seeing as the AH will be taken down on the 18th, that almost guarantee's it to be released for at least 1 week before the AH removal and at best in early Feb. This is Subject to change of course, I would and I would expect it to be in the same day the AH is exploded into the void
Plus the fact that ptr is never up for 3-4 months Never has been for wow and i cant remember that it has for diablo either. Usualy a month to month and half max.
I am hoping that it is released asap. Because farming on the ptr is fun. But pointless. Farming on live would be so much better
I remember seeing the below blue here on diablofans.
'We've no additional patches planned before the pre-expansion patch (which will include Loot 2.0 and Paragon 2.0, plus a variety of other system changes and tuning). There isn't a date set for that yet, mostly because it's still under development. Reaper of Souls isn't scheduled to release until 2014, though, and our pre-expansion patches typically hit between 2 weeks to 2 months before -- so that should help give you a better time frame.'
Seeing as the AH will be taken down on the 18th, that almost guarantee's it to be released for at least 1 week before the AH removal and at best in early Feb. This is Subject to change of course, I would and I would expect it to be in the same day the AH is exploded into the void
Plus the fact that ptr is never up for 3-4 months Never has been for wow and i cant remember that it has for diablo either. Usualy a month to month and half max.
I am hoping that it is released asap. Because farming on the ptr is fun. But pointless. Farming on live would be so much better
Indeed, ultimately loot 2.0 is a significant step up, however is about 80% of the way there, cannot wait for this expansion for diablo to come into full fruition with bounties, rifts ( or curse chests ??) and chanting
Righto. A while ago. Start of december i was in a discussion about loot 2.0 aka pre-expansion patch and when it would be released.
I said it would be released end of january to mid february.
Then rage occured and i was told that i was stupid. Because of ah shutdown the 18th of march.
This is the first message i recieved:
The pre-patch won't happen till the AH is removed. So, pre-patch is on or around 3/18.
You really think they will release loot 2.0 and let you buy/sell that stuff BEFORE they remove the AH?
No Way.
Where i answered:
Legendaries will be bound on account. Can only be traded with people in your game when the item dropped for up to 2 hours.
Yellow items wont be the best anymore(posibly).
So give me ONE good reason ah need to be shut down before loot 2.0 coems out ?
And then this was said back:
because even if yellows won't be as good as legendaries, you don't want people gearing in the first 3 days of prepatch with new yellow and thrash everything apart legendaries.
New loot system implies no AH. I'm sure that if they wanted they could have put out the pre exp patch before the 18 march, but for closing the AH and especially the RM one they had to give a 6 month time to people. 18th march is 6months and one day after the announcement.
If they want to put up a clean new loot system, AH needs to be gone before the patch. This way everyone will have a fresh start and no much advantage because better gear can make ou farm better, but still everyone has to farm.
in the other case, on day 1 you would see all people that have stockpiled gold to burn it out in AH for new gear (even if it's not orange).
It makes sense sortoff, Right. But we are forgetting one rather important thing. On the 25th we can start leveling to lvl 70, Meaning all gear you have bought on the ah in the pre-patch is obsolete. Yes, you may be a op lvl 60 char. But who cares about those refusing going forward when a new expansion is released. Blizzard sure aint. It may hurt, but its the truth
So do you also think we wont see the loot/paragon 2.0 patch before they shut down ah or before ?
I still say no 2.0 before AH shutdown.
There might not be many reasons to not patch before but there sure is none to do so.
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I agree with your argument that it COULD be released prior to the AH removal with no real implications on the game. But, having played blizzard games a long time and followed these kinds of things, I also know how blizzard likes to do things. I think it unlikely that we will see the pre-patch before the AH removal.
That being said, I'm holding out hope that this is not the case and we do see it before then. The announcement that pre-download of the patch should begin sometime this month gives me hope. But I'm not going to hold my breath.
If you guys did not read it yet, front page blue says the client will be updated by the end of this month. Meaning that the activation of the patch can be any time from the end of this month to the release of RoS itself. As posted above me, the PTR/Beta client, still have an AH tab ingame and in files, it is entirely possible the patch will launch with it.
I remember seeing the below blue here on diablofans.
'We've no additional patches planned before the pre-expansion patch (which will include Loot 2.0 and Paragon 2.0, plus a variety of other system changes and tuning). There isn't a date set for that yet, mostly because it's still under development. Reaper of Souls isn't scheduled to release until 2014, though, and our pre-expansion patches typically hit between 2 weeks to 2 months before -- so that should help give you a better time frame.'
Seeing as the AH will be taken down on the 18th, that almost guarantee's it to be released for at least 1 week before the AH removal and at best in early Feb.
This is Subject to change of course, I would and I would expect it to be in the same day the AH is exploded into the void