The character classes now though have melee/ranged attacks. Plus it would depend on the trees you go into. Seeing as, from what I know, every class except the WitchDoctor has at least 2 weapon types. The Monk Claws/Spear/Stave, Barbarian All basic melee weapons, Wizard Orbs/Staffs. The Witchdoctor only uses a Wand, I don't know if he uses anything else than that. The Monk may have skills only for Claws while he may have skills that require the spear/stave. I can't say for sure though, but some of his animations use the stave on his back but then he also uses his claws/fist weapons. As for the Wizard it was mentioned they use Orbs, but you can also see the male wizard using a staff. The Barbarian is given.
What they are missing.. Is the leader of the group. Look at it this way. D1 you had the Warrior, he showed more of the leader from the 3 of them. Now in D2 you have the Paladin. In this new lineup there isn't any. The Witchdoctor is kinda crazy.. The Wizard is a mischievous outcast, the barbarian is a brute that just rips things apart, the Monk is more like a brawler. Holy doesn't exactly mean Auras or Leadership. He's just holy, thus the Monk. He isn't a leader but he's a holy man. The D1 Warrior wasn't holy either. So I see the 5th to at least be a leader of the group, doesn't matter if he's holy or not. But something that goes along the lines of getting the group together.
Problem with samurais specifically is I think they'd end up too similar to the Monk in the fast but weak melee DPS theme.
Well the Monk isn't weak in melee DPS. Why do people even think that?! He's in contrast to the Barbarian only because of his Low HP and Defense. But in terms of damage, the monk owns against mobs. Oh I'm not mad, just like.. I see/hear it often. If anyone's seen or read info from Blizzcon, they state there that he's only in contrast to the Barb through def and hp. But really is powerful in terms of attack.
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Something that can switch between ranged and melee combat (without losing too much power like in D2) is most likely imo.
And why not doing like with the Barbarian, letting the build decide the choise of weapon. You can go bow/crossbow for full ranged, throwing weapons (javelin, throwing knives/axes) for a melee/range mix, or daggers/spears for full melee.
Anyone noticed though that they kept the "1/2" weapon slots? Meaning you can switch quickly between 2 weapon sets you have equipped on?
Actually, that's what the current Character line up is missing. A "leadership" type character. The paladin, though holy, was also a leader. Thus the auras. The Monk, even though he is holy, he doesn't represent the Paladin's leadership abilities. He's more like a holy warrior. Actually much closer to the holy warrior aspect than the Paladin was. I hope Blizz has way less Auras if they're bringing it out. So that it does make it easier to balance out the buffs of each class. Plus a lot easier in groups too. Instead of constantly switching between other auras. You could just use one aura, of course you'll still change for diversity of enemies, but at least its easier.
We can't know how exactly this class will match up in awesomeness, because we can only speculate about the skills that will be at his/hers disposal. But I think Blizzard can manage to make the class as awesome as the other four.
True. But I wonder what weapons he'll use other than Scimitars. Since the Barbarian can use any melee weapon and dual wield too. But he can't use a bow unlike the nomad. One question.. Who thinks Blizzard may release info on the last class by Christmas? While we may have a beastiary update on Holloween? Seems likely to me..
Well there is a chance the Paladin may in some way be corrupted or become insane. He did lose his order. The Necromancer, yeah chances are he became corrupted.
I don't use these forums a lot, I just assume point out every aspect of something. But I've noticed something that hadn't been said in the first couple pages of this thread, and I noticed there was something obvious to me. I haven't read all 30 pages but I'll just say this and someone can tell me if someone else already said it.
During some interview months before the Monk announcement, it was said that they had both classes, 1 class they said was using programmer art with a default model, and the other needed real, actual modeling and animations made from the beginning.
At that moment I called a friend and told him, "They're going to announce the Holy class next." he said, "How do you know." I said, "They said they had a class that required actual animations and modeling. That would be something with complicated animations, like a Holy class, with auras and melee moves."
The other thought I knew, was, "What class could get by on programmer art." to me, "programmer art." means like a programmer can just get by representing something with a solid 1px white line or some jazz... solid white lines and... sol--- arrows... ?? RANGED! So we know, from the basic fundamental beginning of the making of this class, before it was even concepted, it was using programmer art for its gameplay. Best suited for say a default model shooting 1px solid white line projectiles slopped together by some programmer at his desk to feel out the class. This means, this character is ranged ranged ranged, even waaaay before it ever even went into concept.
So uh, whatever it is, it's HEAVILY projectile based from the get-go and there's no way it's some other kind of class. Because as we know with the monk, other more complicated looking classes with auras and melee moves, require animations and models from the start. I'm not saying it won't have other moves or trees, but the fundamental basic fabric of what this class is, even before actually deciding was ranged projectiles.
Just to point out. There was an interview, I think the same one as what you're mentioning. Where they said the last class is the longest standing class they have, that has just gone through many re-imaginings and re-design.
Meh, I don't care what the 5th class will be anymore. As long as Blizz makes it as awesome as the other 4. Coz I still don't see how a pure ranged class with traps will even be as powerful as the rest. They all have their own form of Melee/Ranged abilities. They can all fight on their own. So it makes me wonder, how can we speculate this 5th class will be pure ranged? Of course it may use bows. Its common because of the 3 staple characters. But I don't think it will be pure bows. Bows only have a limited amount of creativity set to it. Especially in AoE wise. Traps aren't exactly going into the "Fast fluid action RPG" gameplay that Blizz wants to dive into. Look at all the characters, they can just jump into a mob of monsters and kick ass. If you're going with traps. You jump into the mob you still need to set the traps. Now really, think about it. Think of a character that could actually deal a crap load of damage to a mob of monsters really quick. Something that's totally different from the 4. We're all going into Assassin/Amazon/Rogue its all to basic. Not very creative. Its almost all the same, give or take a few details. I like that Nomad thing some dude made a thread about, but that was just a story of the picture.. Plus it was still lacking in terms of explaining how they'll own in the ranged category. But he did good with the melee and the twin scimitars. Plus there are more weapons than the concealed knives, daggers, swords. Something original.
Btw, I'm not trying to insult anyone. Some people have really good ideas. Man way better than anything I could think of. But what I'm trying to bring up is Blizzard could actually make something totally different from what we think. Plus almost all of our ideas are becoming alike and totally not original. So it kinda gets redundant, don't you think? Look how awesome the 4 characters are. Wouldn't you think the 5th class would be just as awesome or even better?
There is no 2nd act 2, that would be confusing as hell, don't you think?
You enter the Palace and down there you find a portal, which leads to the Arcane Sanctuary... you know, gray place floating in what looks like space... I have no idea how you could forget that.
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Anyone noticed though that they kept the "1/2" weapon slots? Meaning you can switch quickly between 2 weapon sets you have equipped on?
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True. But I wonder what weapons he'll use other than Scimitars. Since the Barbarian can use any melee weapon and dual wield too. But he can't use a bow unlike the nomad. One question.. Who thinks Blizzard may release info on the last class by Christmas? While we may have a beastiary update on Holloween? Seems likely to me..
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Btw, I'm not trying to insult anyone. Some people have really good ideas. Man way better than anything I could think of. But what I'm trying to bring up is Blizzard could actually make something totally different from what we think. Plus almost all of our ideas are becoming alike and totally not original. So it kinda gets redundant, don't you think? Look how awesome the 4 characters are. Wouldn't you think the 5th class would be just as awesome or even better?
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Oh! That part! Yeah I totally forgot about it..