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    posted a message on Inferno Drops Make No sense at all
    Quote from KdLoL

    whenever I see anything lower than lvl 61 drops in act 3, i just want punch some kitten or throw my computer out of the window

    So what you're saying is that you would be happy if they made it so in Act 3 you only got a single (that's 1, one, uno) drop approximately 65.1% of the time, out of which a 61 item would drop 27.1% of the time, a 62 item 21.7% of the time, and a 63 item 16.3% of the time?

    Because you would still get items at exactly the same rate, only without all that "trash." Unfortunately, you would probably cry foul claiming drops are nerfed because you don't get an item every time, and most of them are trash rolls to boot.

    For reference:

    Quote from "Blizzard" »

    iLvl 61: 27.1%, up from 24.1%
    iLvl 62: 21.7%, up from 16.1%
    iLvl 63: 16.3%, up from 8.0%
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    posted a message on Anyone with 200+ hrs still enjoying this game
    Quote from Stormus

    Quote from Zakaz

    Quote from Stormus

    I just wanted to clear up something. When someone says Diablo is broken or operates flawlessly; that's an opinion, not a fact. If someone thinks the game is broken, that's perfectly fine. The matter is opinionated, and as such it is up for interpretation. Whether they want to explain why they feel that way is up to them.

    With that said, IMO parts of the game are broken. And to me, the few broken systems the game has have really negatively affected the end game and the overall re-playability.

    To clarify - you're wrong. By definition an opinion is:

    1.
    a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty; A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.


    With that out of the way, stating the game is broken is absolutely, positively, not an opinion. If you do make that statement, and you do not explain why you believe that to be the case, you are subject to mockery based on your unabashed use of hyperbole entirely for the sake of being dumb on the internet.


    Did you really just go out of your way to look up the definition of an opinion?

    Simply put, (and in my own words, not Websters) a fact is something that is indisputable and agreed upon. Is saying, 'the game is (not) broken' not a subjective matter? It's up for discussion, there is no absolute 'yes' or 'no'. The answer rest with the individual. Why are we muddling the argument? I don't know if you're having a bad day, but you're coming across as arrogant and hostile. Either way, this isn't really either here nor there in regards to Diablo. Lets not stray from the argument . . .

    If you want me to give you the laundry list of reasons why this game has very little longevity and replay value, I will. If you want me to describe why some of the systems are broken, I will. But I don't see the point, as you likely will not read into what I'm saying and you'll spend your efforts trying to debunk every one of my valid points. You're not going to convince me that this game is polished, and I'm not going to convince you that this game was a let-down. Agree to disagree.

    You don't get to just make definitions up. I went out of my way to look it up because you're being thick in the skull and refuse to simply accept that people making statements are not voicing their opinion, but spewing verbal diarrhea out of emotional distress over something as simple as a game.

    If you or anyone else wish to make their opinion known, be my guest. However, when you do so, do it in a constructive manner or not at all. That's my point, and everyone else who is telling people who are exaggerating conditions to shove off.

    There are no semantics being argued here. If you wish to list your grievances without blowing them out of proportion, please do so. I will happily discuss them in the manner they are presented. If they are all "this game is trash," don't expect an elaborate response in return.

    Edit - know, known, psh.
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    posted a message on Anyone with 200+ hrs still enjoying this game
    Quote from Stormus

    I just wanted to clear up something. When someone says Diablo is broken or operates flawlessly; that's an opinion, not a fact. If someone thinks the game is broken, that's perfectly fine. The matter is opinionated, and as such it is up for interpretation. Whether they want to explain why they feel that way is up to them.

    With that said, IMO parts of the game are broken. And to me, the few broken systems the game has have really negatively affected the end game and the overall re-playability.

    To clarify - you're wrong. By definition an opinion is:

    1.
    a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty; A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

    Stating something is broken is just that: a statement. A statement is a declaration of the state or condition of something, otherwise known as fact. An opinion, while sometimes based on facts, is not a fact itself, which is why it is called an opinion. As such, a statement cannot be an opinion.

    With that out of the way, stating the game is broken is absolutely, positively, not an opinion. If you do make that statement, and you do not explain why you believe that to be the case, you are subject to mockery based on your unabashed use of hyperbole entirely for the sake of being dumb on the internet.

    I really cannot fathom why this matter is such a difficult concept to grasp.
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    posted a message on Inferno Drops Make No sense at all
    Quote from zeroRooter

    Blizzard philosophy: 11 years to release the game, 2-5 years to perfect it, then release an expansion lol

    Random forum troll philosophy: make up numbers, ignore reality, post stupid trash lolroflcopterskates.
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    posted a message on I found a way to make this game more enjoyable.
    Quote from LDVinci

    Just out of curiosity what is the difference between

    "Old way"
    Player A finding a good item intended for Player B
    Taking days of posting in trade chat or forums to finally get in contact with each other.
    Player B offering and item that Player A wants or gold.
    Sealing the deal.

    "New way"
    Player A finds a good item. (Item intended for Player B.)
    Player A sells item for gold on AH. (Player B bought the item because Player B needs it)
    Player A uses gold to buy an item Player A needs. (Now Player C makes gold to buy what he needs)

    Imho, AH speeds the whole process up. I still get excited to find an awesome item cause I know I can sell that and get something I need for my class. Since D3 include both options of trade (chat and AH), what is there to complain about?

    The difference is that one requires critical thinking to realize it's exactly the same as the other way, just far faster and more efficient (using a universal currency). Also, it's one more thing to complain about without fully understanding it.

    Tough to say which factor is more determinant in this issue.
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    posted a message on 3x Loot for Elite Packs
    5 rares from a single pack is not impossible to get killing them legitimately. Is it very uncommon? Yes. Impossible? No.

    With that said, if you are killing packs in a bugged manner repeatedly to earn "extra" loot, don't be shocked if you earn yourself an account suspension or outright ban for exploitation of mechanics.
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    posted a message on Anyone with 200+ hrs still enjoying this game
    Quote from shaggy

    Quote from Doorsfan

    Well, an intelligent discussion would require that you a) Drop the hate, B) Come to terms with what you actually do and don't dodge it with semantics and C) stop mocking/trolling/being butthurt resorting to insults. As far as rest goes - Imagination is the only tool we have to battle reality. I'll let you dwell on that in contrast to what you are doing here.

    To be fair, the statement "I quit because the game is so broken" is actually passing opinion off as fact.

    To rewrite that as opinion one would say "I quit because the game feels broken to me."

    If I say "my car is broken" that is a statement of fact. It is a fine line, but it's a distinction nonetheless. It's common nowadays to take one's opinion and make statements like that which actually imply hard fact. That doesn't make it proper communication though any more than it makes the word "hizzy" appear in the Oxford English Dictionary.

    Oh now you've done it. You'll be labeled as a hater in no time.
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    posted a message on Anyone with 200+ hrs still enjoying this game
    Quote from Doorsfan

    Quote from Zakaz



    Quite fluently actually - You are currently just being stubborn about not realizing what you actually did, by your action - Regardless of what your intent was, regardless of what your claim was or regardless of what fruit was compared to what.

    I guess I should have edited it to read "do you comprehend it," because it's quite apparent you do not.

    Continue in your misunderstanding of what an opinion actually is, and what it represents. The rest of us will get a hearty chuckle at your misappropriation of colloquial terminology in what should be an intelligent discussion.

    The end.

    PS: you should get rid of that signature - you look silly.
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    posted a message on 1.1 Legendaries are worthless for active players
    Quote from BigEd781

    Quote from Zakaz

    Quote from BigEd781

    Quote from Zakaz

    All I'm reading in this thread is "in World of Warcraft, Legendary items were the best in the game, so it should hold true in Diablo 3. I'm also going to ignore the fact that this has never, ever been the case in any Diablo franchise game, because poo in your face, that's why."

    Did I get that right?

    No, not really, not at all. You are reading "when I see a legendary drop I want to get excited about it". What is the point in super-rare gear that is not likely to be very good?

    Now the guy up above a few posts has a good point; perfectly rolled rares are extremely... rare... and I'm ok with those edging out the best legendaries if that's what they go with. I just want to get excited when I see orange or green letters. Right now I'm not.

    Which is why they're buffing them. In case you forgot. Which is what we're talking about. Speculation is fun though.

    *sigh*, c'mon, I know you're not an idiot...

    It is some part speculation, but another part is not as Blizz has said already that perfectly rolled rares will still be the best gear around. I'm ok with this! If you read my last post you will see that yes; I wish legendaries were the best of the best, but I can live with them being on par with well rolled rares because then I will still be excited to see one drop. Not once have I said that they will remain crappy after 1.1 launches.

    God damn, the people around here are so quick to snap back with a typical, canned response and almost unwilling to actually spend a few moments thinking about what person wrote.

    Except that my post was aimed at those who are complaining about the idea that perfectly rolled rares will still be better than a perfect legendary. That expectation is based entirely in their own ideology on what a legendary item should represent, and not the reality of what it always has in Diablo.

    I'm with you on the fact that legendary items right now are a huge disappointment. I've found over a dozen myself, and all of them were incredibly underwhelming (and I knew they would be before I ID'd them). I want that to change with everyone else. But I'm also aware of what their status and role in this game is intended to be (as I know you are) - there are just plenty of people who apparently don't grasp that, and don't care to try and understand.
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    posted a message on Best Solution to Crit Damage Problem and IAS (to Blizzard)
    Quote from 2good4U

    Well, I know other reasons why they nerfed attack speed(but damage was a factor, they just can't admit it publicly).

    ...

    @Doorsfan: They say many things. And I only believe what I see with my own eyes. Currently too many people are choosing the crit way. And build diversity is "not" fine.

    Tinfoil hat to the rescue!

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    posted a message on Anyone with 200+ hrs still enjoying this game
    Quote from Doorsfan

    Quote from Zakaz

    Quote from Doorsfan

    Much like you did your self by just bashing the person with sarcasm, instead of just accepting that it is his opinion. Seems very unreasonable to waste breath on the non-constructive instead of actually facing a discussion of some kind.

    Stop trying to compare my post to his, you're comparing apples to giraffes.

    Where did I ever say he wasn't entitled to that opinion? No, see, my point was that his opinion was actually encroaching on a claim of fact, rather than simply saying "I dislike this game."

    For the final time, since I'm going to take your signature as true and assume you're just being dense: saying something is broken is not the same as saying "I don't like this." Huge difference. Black and white. Are you getting it yet?

    You invalidated his entire opinion by just raining sarcasm on him the very moment he opened his mouth - And yet you try to troll me with that i would be dense, when you lack the insight to admit that you are either trolling/Just failing to realize what you actually did to someone posting.

    And my signature just reflects to the fact that i do not take you seriously, seeing how you are 50% troll and 50% just plain shallow.

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    posted a message on 1.1 Legendaries are worthless for active players
    Quote from BigEd781

    Quote from Zakaz

    All I'm reading in this thread is "in World of Warcraft, Legendary items were the best in the game, so it should hold true in Diablo 3. I'm also going to ignore the fact that this has never, ever been the case in any Diablo franchise game, because poo in your face, that's why."

    Did I get that right?

    No, not really, not at all. You are reading "when I see a legendary drop I want to get excited about it". What is the point in super-rare gear that is not likely to be very good?

    Now the guy up above a few posts has a good point; perfectly rolled rares are extremely... rare... and I'm ok with those edging out the best legendaries if that's what they go with. I just want to get excited when I see orange or green letters. Right now I'm not.

    Which is why they're buffing them. In case you forgot. Which is what we're talking about. Speculation is fun though.
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    posted a message on Best Solution to Crit Damage Problem and IAS (to Blizzard)
    I'm not even sure the OP knows what they want.

    First, they claim that crit is OP and unfair because Demon Hunters can stack so much of it, and then directly contradicts that by saying eventually everyone will have it.

    So, what's the claim? That the game will be too easy? PvP will be too crazy? Lack of statistic diversity? Lack of build diversity?

    From what I'm reading, the issue is lack of patience and a sense of entitlement (go figure). The game has been out two months and people already want things nerfed to make it easier to acquire, or less of a gap between the top and bottom. Christ, what a depressing state of affairs this new generation of gamers has come into.
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    posted a message on Anyone with 200+ hrs still enjoying this game
    Quote from Doorsfan

    Much like you did your self by just bashing the person with sarcasm, instead of just accepting that it is his opinion. Seems very unreasonable to waste breath on the non-constructive instead of actually facing a discussion of some kind.

    Stop trying to compare my post to his, you're comparing apples to giraffes.

    Where did I ever say he wasn't entitled to that opinion? No, see, my point was that his opinion was actually encroaching on a claim of fact, rather than simply saying "I dislike this game."

    For the final time, since I'm going to take your signature as true and assume you're just being dense: saying something is broken is not the same as saying "I don't like this." Huge difference. Black and white. Are you getting it yet?
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    posted a message on Anyone with 200+ hrs still enjoying this game
    Quote from Doorsfan

    Quote from Zakaz

    Quote from Corpsie

    200 Hours in Beta followed by 350 hours in Retail and the game is so broken its forced me to not enjoy the game, I want to so badly, but its so broken in its current state im leaving it be until shit is fixed.

    Thank you for providing such detailed examination of what you deem to be so badly broken it's not worth playing. I can definitely see your point.

    Sarcasm font needed

    You go to blindly ignore reasoned/structured posts and hate on people who express dislike for the game. No surprise people would call this kind of behavior "fanboism".

    There's quite a significant difference in expressing dislike for something and engaging in blatant hyperbole for which you provide absolutely no detail to back that claim up.

    You wouldn't know "fanboi-ism" if it slapped you in the face. I'm a fanboi of common sense and intelligent rhetoric, not frothing at the mouth and licking windows while generalizing hate at something you can't even begin to describe.

    Thanks for the attempt to clear things up, though.
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