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Quote from "ansl" »

hmm did they not say that the barbarian was the only returning class? The WIZARD(harry potter? HOMM?) is the sorc just with an amazingly ugglier name! Happy it is in though!

Yeah? And the Witch Doctor is just the Necromancer. These archetypes are, mechanically and conceptually, inescapable. The notion of classes returning or not returning is a point of lore. The Witch Doctor isn't called a Necromancer because the word 'Necromancer' in this setting refers only to a specific group of priests who dwell beneath a specific jungle, obsessed with 'balance' in a very dark manner, while the Witch Doctor seems intended to be parodic. In the same vein, the Wizard isn't called a Sorcer(er/ess) because that refers to members of the Vizjerei or Zann Esu clans, while this character is intended to be an independent prodigy.

The class trailer is hilariously cheesy, beyond even the Lord of Destruction intro, but the class itself appeals to me. Visually, the female's model seems perfect and the male concept art is promising.

What I wonder is if most of the Wizard's spells are elemental or if there is enough 'pure' magic like Disintegrate, Magic Missile, Teleport, and Slow Time to potentially do without crude elements.

Quote from "Shadowdragon85" »

if you want the game to be darker than just adjust the color of your computer monitor. Damn cry babies

I am stunned by your expert knowledge of the visual arts. Well played, sir.

Quote from "USNSEALs" »

"Okay, so some guy said the art looked great in an interview. I guess I'm fine with it too then wooho. '

Or not?"

Exactly what I thought, especially since I've seen scores of posts say someone from Mythos should be in charge of the art direction.

Irrefutable shut down after irrefutable shut down continues to fall on every excuse and/or opinion of the petitioners, and each and every time they come up with a new one.

Here's my theory: When something is great, there will still be someone who doesn't like it, and often times it is 5% or less.
The petitioners are those 5% or less (Which is less than 1% of the total amount who will purchase it.)

This is what I haven't liked about all this mess from the beginning.
Stop being a pseudointellectual, shut your mouth, man up, and simply say 'I don't like it because I don't like it.'
These "reasonable" reasons are pathetic.
I'm well in comprehension that opinions are neither right nor wrong.. but millions against 50,000 vividly reminds me of the opinion, long ago, that the Earth is flat.
And coming up with "reasonable" reason after "reasonable" reason when each one is refuted to the opposite side of the universe and back, when the horse comes back atomized, only reinforces this fact.

How did you transition from agreeing with the quote to trying to blast it with an incoherent rant that contradicts itself at least twice?

Quote from "USNSEALs" »

Theory: The petition wasn't a gathering of 50,000 dissatisfied fans, but 50,000 trolls.

The taste! It is irony.

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Thank GOD.

Now I can get a hard on every time I turn on my $1,700 monitor and it's being put to good use.
Every piece of detail and every color and visual that instills scent, rushing to my brain as if I were there.
No more pencil drawings with 3 shades of water coloring.
And I don't have to take my monitor back, haha.

I don't think colour depth is what you think it is....

So does the Tristram Cathedral, but in-game it is another matter.

Quote from "WhirlWhindBaba" »

Could that mean development for this game is far to along to redo the art design and they are trying to polish this game in time for a early release? i mean blizzard did take tips on starcraft 2 but very few on Diablo 3 i think because its to far along int he making to be redone in any sorta way like that... my cents.

Games aren't normally announced until they are too far along to change graphically, and Blizzard is no exception. They are also obviously fond of this style, as made evident by their other recent games.

I'll donate money, blood, and organs to BioWare and Bethesda.

I just want to note that the development team's comments about disliking their previous art directions are indicative of how this team's taste differs from the team responsible for previous iterations of the series. Art is a subjective matter of taste, and this team has their own style (see: WarCraft III , World of WarCraft) that differs from the Diablo and Diablo II team's style.

Everyone on both sides of this chasm has to keep this in mind. They are reimagining someone else's creation. Blizzard isn't Blizzard North, and the Diablo franchise was Blizzard North's baby.

Quote from "Karjalan;319943 »

[quote name='The_wind']if i were blizzard i would say f.u then put a unicorn in d3 just to piss you off.[/quote']Haha, instead of Cow Level, have a Unicorn, Bunnies, Flowers and Rainbow level. Just to piss everyone that bitches about all that off.

Wow, you're both so cool.

Quote from "Umpa65" »

Good points but you failed to answer my last question and i think a brief review of nasa footage makes great reason for a debate as to extraterrestrial intelligent life. So i hope that you are not one of those people that feel that science has left no part of the universe unscathed and that there is no chance that another being in the universe exits. If so i am sorry to tell you but you are sadly mistaken, not even many scientists of real intelligence put the idea of extraterrestrial intelligent existence out of question.

The existence of intelligent extraterrestrial life is a matter utterly separate from UFOs being alien visitors. The former is a matter of extremely high probability and the focus of extensive future exploration into an infinite universe, while the latter is a mess of bullshit comparable to angel sightings, yeti sightings, and faerie sightings.

Quote from "Umpa65" »

And on the translation thing. That is a weak argument, there are writings from the cave of Qumran i think that are older than most of the original bible manuscripts we had for hundreds of years that have been translated without any problems. The oldest of such writings in whole are Ethiopic in language with some Aramaic fragments and some surviving fragments in old slavonic.

I don't know what you're getting at. I'm well aware that translation happens and I know very intimately how it works. My point was not about accuracy, it was about what gets lost in translation. No language has perfect cognates for all of its words in every other. Most wordplay of any kind, for instance, is annihilated in translation from most any language to most any other. Words cease to rhyme, words with multiple meanings in one language translate into words with more or fewer meanings in another, and so on.

Quote from "Umpa65" »

When it comes to recognizing intent from a writer in your own language it isn't THAT difficult with a bit of study, there you are trying to discredit the information when much of it is a great historical attribution to human history with accuracy.

You stated that they seemed honest to you. I was responding to that.

Quote from "Umpa65" »

Also i find it hard to believe that those writers are so insane that EVERY one of them that experienced some sort of angelic encounter could ALL be able to have a dialog with something they didn't actually speak with and didn't exist in some way or another.

Faeries. Dragons. Ghosts. Elves. Elvis. Alien abductions.

All it takes is one ghost story to spook a person into believing that they have had a 'sighting' or an 'encounter'. If it is evocative enough, it spreads, and if it spreads enough, the effect can be tremendous. As I have said, mental illness doesn't enter into it. Probably in some cases, but obviously not in most. It's pretty fundamental human psychology. No abnormality required.

I do identify with some versions of vampires very much, but I fervently dislike when too much emphasis is placed on how cool and/or horrific it is to suck blood. I understand and appreciate the allegorical reason for the feeding, but I am much more interested in the psychological effects of immortality and the conflicting ideals in vampiric society -- from the ethics of feeding practices to how best to adapt to the changes in mortal civilisation (or whether to adapt at all).

There is a lot of very interesting ground to cover without dwelling on drilling into the reader/viewer/player's head 'Wow, vampires have fangs and suck blood, isn't that awesome?'

Quote from "Umpa65;315694 »

IF there truly was no god, what would lead people to believe in a god in the first place?

Quote from "Umpa65"" »

If evolution was correct at first it may seem plausable that a cave man would see things in the sky and be like " CRUG SAY IT BE GOD!" but that doesn't make sense when you really think about it. If their brains were evolving and if there was no god then it would be an illogical concept that would be untrue and have no purpose in evolution, so if they EVOLVED then why did they come up with this "primitive concept"?

Superstition proper is older than deistic superstition. It would seem that it is a side-effect of the tendency to attribute agency to forces without agency, which, in ancient hominids, survived because it helped them survive.

Superstition, and therein religion, had a survival advantage insofar as it is a product of the human tendency to 'overshoot' in attributing agency -- since from an evolutionary perspective, in a primitive life it is better to be wrong in attributing too much agency to things in the environment than to be another agent's dinner due to a failure to attribute enough agency (such as to predators), so religiosity had a survival advantage. At the root of human belief in deities lies an instinct on a hair trigger: the disposition to attribute agency -- beliefs and desires and other mental states -- to anything complicated that moves. The false alarms generated by our overactive disposition to look for agents wherever the action is are the irritants around which the pearls of religion grow.

Another way of putting it is that religion was a proto-science: observing facts and forming a theory to explain those facts, but lacking much ability to verify or falsify those theories and thus relying solely on instinctual preference.

Later, as our ancestors began to establish systems we would recognise as civilisations, religion then began to serve the more casual evolutionary purpose of organisation. It has steadily lost its relevance, like a redundant organ, failing to evolve out of our makeup because while it is no longer being selected for, it is also not being selected against.

Quote from "Umpa65" »

Why do we have all these religions and such if the logical explanation for it all is to not believe in a god because we have no proof? If there was never a god there would certainly be no proof for them.

And there isn't, so I don't see your point there.

Quote from "Umpa65" »

It's like, people that do have that "faith" do so because they feel that waayyy back in the day, people DID see things like angels, demons, and the red sea splitting apart. And maybe some giant ass angel/human babies courtesy of The Book Of Enoch (not in the bible). But if non of this stuff actually HAPPENED way back in the day then what did they believe in? There was no, ancient people before them, they WERE the ancient people.

There were about 250 thousand years of 'ancient people' before them. Seven million years if you count the hominids that came before Homo sapiens.

Quote from "Umpa65" »

And then there's this question. People were smart during the Renaissance, when they all decided the catholic church SUCKED why didn't they do away with the whole concept. If it's logical for humans to believe religion to be false why didn't they logically think it out then and get rid of it? If humans were evolving then also our concepts would, but apparently we have ALWAYS had the same concepts of religion.

Bodies don't evolve in such a blink of an eye, and neither do ideas.

The Renaissance was intellectually prosperous, yes. It was also under the weight of a few hundred thousand years of religious memes and overactive assumptions of agency. You can't dump something like that so quickly. Not any more than you could evolve out of fur or a tail in similar time.

Quote from "Umpa65" »

Lets go with the bible for a sec, why would they lie about say....seeing an angel or something. I dont think that would happen, all those writings obviously seem heart felt and honest.

How do you determine honesty or dishonesty from a translation of a translation of a translation of manuscripts written in ancient languages/dialects by a number of different people? Such subtle cues do not even translate from one modern language to another.

Hell, how do you determine honesty or dishonesty in text at all, even in your first language? If I told you several conflicting stories of my life, would you be able to determine fact from fiction?

Quote from "Umpa65" »

Why was there a period of sooo many people writing about all these incredible sittings? Why wouldn't it ALWAYS happen if it was all just mental insanity? I dont think that many people could be crazy, it seems improbable.

I don't want to be rude, but don't tell me you believe that UFOs are alien visitors, too.

It's not about being crazy, just mistaken, or dishonest.

Why in the world would you announce something so bizarre if you don't want it to be responded to?

Such declaration is counter to the objective of hiding. Did you play hide-and-seek as a child by closing your eyes, sticking your fingers in your ears, and repeating 'la la la' to drown out the seeker? Or maybe just telling them, 'please don't find me'.

Quote from "FingolfinGR" »

the only thing science hasnt managed to completely explain is female orgasm

If you mean female ejaculation, that is indeed about as mysterious as the Big Bang.

Female orgasms, though, are very well understood.

Quote from "Magistrate" »

I'd also like to say that let's keep "OMFGZ teh WII'z/PS3'z/360'z betta dan teh WII/PS3/306!!11!" to a minimum (A.K.A. console warring.)

Hm. How about:

OMFGZ teh PC'z betta dan teh consoulz!!11!

Because that is my position.