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When calling others immature, this is not an effective way to do it. Just saying.

No kidding. He's our Ghandi.

I thought this thread was strictly for organised feedback, not for this antagonistic inanity between members. I hope it gets cleaned up, this post included.

This poll would be better on a site that does not require registration but checks IPs instead, like Blizzard's official site, for both a higher voter turnout and lower chance of cheating. But, anyway:

I voted 'Too cartoony'.

Colour isn't a concern of mine, nor is gore. There is a reasonable amount of the former and plenty of the latter (in combat, anyway). What I'm concerned about is the World of WarCraft-like cartoon armour, blurry low-resolution textures, smudged-on foliage, and cute little gargoyles. At the moment, the game looks to me like an isometric World of WarCraft plus gore, mostly due to the pauldrontastic armour, low polygon count, and blurry textures. I do mean that as respectfully as possible and only hope for the former to be reconsidered and the latter two to scale upwards to more modern systems/standards.

Well, damn, everything I might have said has been called, and the repetitions are annoying, so let's see what's left:

1. Either Azmodan or Belial survive for an expansion.
2. The flaming object falling from the sky is Tyrael plummeting to Sanctuary after being stripped of his power and having his wings torn off by this Archangel, resulting in a much more terrestrial Tyrael.
3. Belial, the Lord of Lies, poses as an Archangel.
4. It sounds like a huge, gargantuan, swollen, bloated mushroom.

No work on my part, I was just making a point to Dvirus55.

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Why do I have the feeling when they show lut gholem or some desert area that people will photoshop it into black and white as well.

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Is it possible to apply that black and white filter into the 20 minute gameplay video? I have no doubt when people see it like that it looks completely dull.

Original:


Greyscale:


Black and white:


What we propose:


Just saying.

Yes, isometric is a third-person perspective, while a third-person perspective is not necessarily isometric. All crows are birds but not all birds are crows.

Anyway, no, the graphics would have to be much better for first-person or over-the-shoulder third-person to be tolerable.

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there should be little or no reason for this sad excuse of a petiton.....sorry just had to keep it real because what we saw wasnt even a beta

There shouldn't be, but there is.

'Not even a beta' doesn't say anything. Art direction is determined early on and not changed once things get rolling unless there is significant pressure from within the team or from the fanbase or public. This is even more true in modern game development. It's not like 1995-1998 when you could go from this in alpha to this at release. Not to mention that these days Blizzard announces their games late in development precisely to avoid showing screenshots of prototype graphics, just videos of gameplay-subject-to-change.

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How do you know it doesnt look like that at night time anyway??

(talking about the pics in the original post, the outside ones. especially the bridge one)

Night time? :confused:

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Didn't vote because what you're showing isn't graphical change its just a change in gamma and brightness...

Well, no, this is:







Which would, indeed, be of no help.

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Odds are that you've left the thread already, but the purpose of the Soulstones (for the Prime Evils, at least) is to effectively channel powers from hell into themselves and Sanctuary, avoiding the barriers or suppressions put in place.

The Prime Evils learned to control the soulstones for this purpose; otherwise they'd be considerably weakened while in Sanctuary. Which they were, at first.

By shattering the Soulstones and releasing Diablo, Baal and Mephisto from the soulstones, the Prime Evils have been set free, but they are no longer able to influence Sanctuary in the same manner.

That is what I was saying, yes, they're now free but unable to take form, as they were before the soulstones were introduced. But they must still be able to influence the world in whatever ways convinced the Horadrim/Tyrael to use the soulstones in the first place.

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Presumably (on my part) Baal corrupted the worldstone to channel the powers of hell in the same manner, but on a much greater scale. To avert a war heaven would no doubt have lost (due to the power of Sanctuary in the hands of the evils) Tyrael was forced to destroy the worldstone.

Of course, shattering the Worldstone also (supposedly) shattered the barriers between the worlds, the things that keeps angels and demons alike weakened. But the invasion everyone thought was readied didn't come.

My own personal guess over why this is so is either because of the civil war going on in hell, with the Prime Evils only recently returning to restore order or because they have been engaged in the Great Conflict; it simply not having the time (or opportunity) to spill over into Sanctuary yet.

Fair enough. Not enough to ease my suspicion of Tyrael's motives, but it's nice to know there is an alternative.

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Diablo died, remember? As in, his body was left behind and his soul was sucked in to his soulstone, which the "hero" took and smashed.

A smashed soulstone is a released soul, is it not? The Prime Evils predate the soulstones which imprisoned them, yes? So destroying the stones means having the Three Brothers' spirits just as free as they were before the Horadrim captured them, after having their 'spirit forms' banished to Sanctuary by the Lesser Evils.

Quoting the original lore: So it came to be that there was a great revolution within the Burning Hells known as The Dark Exile. The Lesser Evils overthrew the Three Prime Evils and banished their spirit forms to the mortal realm. The demons Belial (the Lord of Lies) and Azmodan (the Lord of Sin) fought to claim rulership of Hell during the absence of the Three Brothers.

I have long thought that Tyrael has been lying, as per Belial.

TYRAEL: Rip out those stones I had the Horadrim trap the Prime Evils in aeons ago and smash them at Hellforge.
HERO: But won't that--
TYRAEL: Go. Smashy smashy.
<Smashing ensues.>
TYRAEL: Thanks. Now excuse me while I shatter the Worldstone.
HERO: But won't that--
TYRAEL: Baal corrupted it.
HERO: What does that even mean?
TYRAEL: Shoo, mortal. The Archangel needs to smash.

I'd prefer to like Tyrael, so someone please fill me in if I'm missing something about the soulstone business. This is just how it seems to me.

I agree completely about the general quality of everything, although the colour palette is last on my list.

By the way, did I miss the poll, or is it closed to me because I have been such an inactive member?