OK it was said that the higher the iLvL, the higher the budget the item has, meaning the more points it will have to allocate to its stats.
In the recent addition to the game guides, it says that the more MF you have effects the percentage chance of getting more affixes to a particular item right?
OK so wouldn't that mean that yes, MF will give a wider use of an item with more affixes and stat variety, wouldn't it cause the item to lose potency?
Example, if an iLvL 63 had a stat budget of 600, wouldn't it be better to get a great roll on 3 affixes that you need of 200 per affix instead of 100 per spread accross 6 affixes giving them an average of 100 each.
Barb roll
Neck roll 3 affixes:
Vitality - 200
Strength - 200
All Resist - 200
wow pretty strong in 3 needed barb stats.
Neck roll 6 affixes:
Vitality - 100
Strength - 100
All Resist - 100
Int - 100
Dex - 100
Gem slot - 1
Descent but some affixes aren't needed or not that important.
Keep in mind these are example numbers of how I see this working, if its different and you have facts please note them, if they are your own assumption, please note that "you THINK" it works in whatever way you think it does
Thanks in advance, a Blue's confirmation of this would be nice.
TBH, i'm just stashing my unIDs and hoping this'll be patched, and then sell them after. If they don't patch it then oh well i'll just ID them and go on. And imo if you're able to sell any unID for over 100k i'd say it is still profit because of the odds of a rare to be worth 100k on the AH make me feel like you're getting a great bargain. Just my opinion, could be completely wrong.
Even if it does get patched who will take the chance. The scammers likely have stashes of rares that they have preidentified waiting to unload them after this gets "patched". There is no way i will ever buy an "unid" item.
Not to sound like a biznitch, but when I heard about this crap and to see that it is a real exploit just hurt my heart.
I was actually proud that the community had figured out a way to maximize their chances with un-id'd rare sales, in the form of a gamble/lottery between Diablo community members, so loving the idea I got into the mix.
Selling my rares when I got a string of like 15 trash items, looking to make 300k on an item that was possibly just vendor trash, and hey, if the other guy hit big, grats to him for taking the chance, and visa versa.
"Damn, I'm tired, I don't feel like farming, I have some extra gold, let me get on the trade chat and see how much the un-id'd rares are going for"
Strangley over time I've maybe bought around 30 rares from random people, and what do you know, not on one of them did I hit big, yeah to comfort myself I say well hell bad luck, but this subject keeps making me think that maybe I was just hoodwinked out of millions of hard earned gold. Of course as of now I just don't feel like I can trust trading of this nature anymore, which is sad because it was a great way to link the community, and some Einstein had to screw that up:(
@Kingslayer, overall your gear is better than mines but this is one tip I've noticed about going from act II to act III for myself. I find myself always trying to preserve my discipline for when I run into champ packs, basically staying at max dps till I see an Oh shit situation.
Even though I'm not a glass cannon, as soon as something flinches at me a certain way, now I pop my SS , or SP/Gloom + Caltrops/Jagged spikes since I have some LoH.
One might think that you are wasting Disc, but most of the time all you need is that one use to avoid a one shot death, and can survive to make the space and get the kill, especially if you are one that tries to move right to the edge of danger, then sometimes miss judge the distance and still get hit and killed.
Just practice being more pro active with hitting it if you fall under this category.
Normally if I can dodge that all of a sudden insta-kill, I still have a chance that Prep procs, or if not have time to kite to build more disc.
Simple way to fix the problem would be to have the affixes determined after identifying rather than when the item drops.
Before I used to think this, but other factors come into effect.
Remember affixes are affected by MF, so if this was the case you'd just farm up as much rares as you could, then equip all of your MF gear plus your 5 NV stacks and then unidentify all your pieces. Or you can pay other geared users with max MF (if you don't have it) to unidentify for you, and then return your items.
Thats one of the main reasons its determined on the drop, because your MF% at the time of the kill is calculated then.
I believe this statement is incorrect. MF only affects the 'color' of the item, nothing with the affixes or stats, or anything else. So, with MF, you have a higher chance of getting a yellow, rather than a blue. etc.
blizzard's MF blog recently already stated that loot quality also considers the number of affixes and that MF directly affects loot quality
Simple way to fix the problem would be to have the affixes determined after identifying rather than when the item drops.
Before I used to think this, but other factors come into effect.
Remember affixes are affected by MF, so if this was the case you'd just farm up as much rares as you could, then equip all of your MF gear plus your 5 NV stacks and then unidentify all your pieces. Or you can pay other geared users with max MF (if you don't have it) to unidentify for you, and then return your items.
Thats one of the main reasons its determined on the drop, because your MF% at the time of the kill is calculated then.
I just hit my highest gold amount in this game (3 million) and thought I could buy a good upgrade only to see that the lowest descent upgrade was around 34 million gold /sigh
ps. I've gotten 2 around 2.5 million 3 other times
Yeah, interesting change for melee, but I don't see the point in making the Mortors harder for range, the game is hard enough and as a ranged, mortors is what I hate the most besides the combination of speed and immune.
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I can def use that
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In the recent addition to the game guides, it says that the more MF you have effects the percentage chance of getting more affixes to a particular item right?
OK so wouldn't that mean that yes, MF will give a wider use of an item with more affixes and stat variety, wouldn't it cause the item to lose potency?
Example, if an iLvL 63 had a stat budget of 600, wouldn't it be better to get a great roll on 3 affixes that you need of 200 per affix instead of 100 per spread accross 6 affixes giving them an average of 100 each.
Barb roll
Neck roll 3 affixes:
Vitality - 200
Strength - 200
All Resist - 200
wow pretty strong in 3 needed barb stats.
Neck roll 6 affixes:
Vitality - 100
Strength - 100
All Resist - 100
Int - 100
Dex - 100
Gem slot - 1
Descent but some affixes aren't needed or not that important.
Keep in mind these are example numbers of how I see this working, if its different and you have facts please note them, if they are your own assumption, please note that "you THINK" it works in whatever way you think it does
Thanks in advance, a Blue's confirmation of this would be nice.
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This!!!
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I was actually proud that the community had figured out a way to maximize their chances with un-id'd rare sales, in the form of a gamble/lottery between Diablo community members, so loving the idea I got into the mix.
Selling my rares when I got a string of like 15 trash items, looking to make 300k on an item that was possibly just vendor trash, and hey, if the other guy hit big, grats to him for taking the chance, and visa versa.
"Damn, I'm tired, I don't feel like farming, I have some extra gold, let me get on the trade chat and see how much the un-id'd rares are going for"
Strangley over time I've maybe bought around 30 rares from random people, and what do you know, not on one of them did I hit big, yeah to comfort myself I say well hell bad luck, but this subject keeps making me think that maybe I was just hoodwinked out of millions of hard earned gold. Of course as of now I just don't feel like I can trust trading of this nature anymore, which is sad because it was a great way to link the community, and some Einstein had to screw that up:(
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Even though I'm not a glass cannon, as soon as something flinches at me a certain way, now I pop my SS , or SP/Gloom + Caltrops/Jagged spikes since I have some LoH.
One might think that you are wasting Disc, but most of the time all you need is that one use to avoid a one shot death, and can survive to make the space and get the kill, especially if you are one that tries to move right to the edge of danger, then sometimes miss judge the distance and still get hit and killed.
Just practice being more pro active with hitting it if you fall under this category.
Normally if I can dodge that all of a sudden insta-kill, I still have a chance that Prep procs, or if not have time to kite to build more disc.
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Very much so Bro-science right here
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/game/guide/items/equipment
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Before I used to think this, but other factors come into effect.
Remember affixes are affected by MF, so if this was the case you'd just farm up as much rares as you could, then equip all of your MF gear plus your 5 NV stacks and then unidentify all your pieces. Or you can pay other geared users with max MF (if you don't have it) to unidentify for you, and then return your items.
Thats one of the main reasons its determined on the drop, because your MF% at the time of the kill is calculated then.
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I've been really under pricing my drops
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Yeah if this was the case, it should have atleast had a more "universal" voice so to speak
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I really didn't need to see this:(
I just hit my highest gold amount in this game (3 million) and thought I could buy a good upgrade only to see that the lowest descent upgrade was around 34 million gold /sigh
ps. I've gotten 2 around 2.5 million 3 other times
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Wait a minute? can I be this fail?
You mean to tell me that Scoundrels and Enchantress' can use offhands??
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They just trying to prove this diversity crap of thier builds, so we can't say "See blizz uses the same cookie cutter as most of us"