Okay, this is going to be a multi-purpose thread to reduce clutter on the forums. Here you can do the following:
Complain about the game not dropping item X
Insane luck because you got 3 Shard of Hates in a row
Ask if Kadala drops item Y
Show off your insanely well rolled Thunderfury
Discuss whether or not the drop rate was stealth nerfed
Point out that the Mystic refuses to give you a socket on your weapon despite you asking her politely
State the obvious fact that Onyxia Deep Breaths more often since last patch
And all similar issues that come down to a simple thing: RNG.
I was going to add this to the FAQ, but since those threads pop up daily, it deserves its own thread. Here's a breakdown of information about current drop rates:
The drop rates have not been altered since the last patch 2.0.5.
Kadala might give you everything except for Bottomless potions, follower items, and cache-only legendaries.
Kadala might give you nothing ever.
There's always someone who gets every desired enchant on the first roll; to even out for this, you are the victim who will not get the desired enchant even after 100 re-rolls.
If you play for 500 hours and find 2000 legendaries, you will not get an average distribution of all the legendaries in the game; instead, you will see lucky streaks (for example, 3 Wand of Wohs in a row - feel free to post this here than so that I can hate you) or unlucky streaks (for example, never get a Wand of Woh - feel free to post this here so you can join my despair).
Important: If you see a thread that is an "RNG thread", post a link to THIS thread and leave. Do not engage in discussions. New threads that purely discuss RNG, even about a specific item or in a subforum (classes) will be locked. One thread is enough. Thanks.
Insane Luck: Last night, a treasure goblin dropped two legendaries for me, one of which was a Puzzle Ring, after killing the Rift Guardian on Torment 2.
people say that you have the same chance of drawing 50 royal flushes from 50 shuffled decks as any other 50 combinations of 5 cards you can name.
it makes perfect sense. the cards dont care about which card is which. they are all just cards. they all have the same odds of being drawn. They do not keep track of what has been drawn before. The decks of cards and the shuffle do not understand what a poker hand is. the deck of cards does not understand the difference between 1 ace and 4 aces
but the players do.
just like how one can assume that the D3 code does not understand what a piece of shit unique is. But the players do.
The game does not see 3 "useless as all fuck" Ivory Towers in the past 5 hours. But the players do.
The game does not count 25,000 shards spent for nothing entertaining. But the players do. and so on and so forth.....
The rules that could be writen, and the enhancements that could be grafted into the game as far as item drops and/or noteworthy occurences go, that would increase the number of positive experiences for the players or reduce the number of negative experiences, is as infinite as one could imagine....
I suppose these shitty scenarios are rare. thank goodness!!
Are they rare? They must be.......
Does the Ivory tower still suck? It used to be a goddamn joke....
Food for thought?
TLDR: I think hearthstone is awesome for the same reason chess is awesome. its because the amount of possibilities is virtually limitless. Same with starcraft. Because some units are weak against units and strong against others, It's like rock paper scissors on a grand scale.
What does this have to do with D3? im not sure yet....
Yea, when I get a legendary, it should be a max-rolled legendary! Make it so!
He's not talking about every legendary. His point is that if you finally get one of the super rare items like Wand of Woh, Starmetal Kukri, Calamity etc etc to not let them roll 1.9k dps, mainstat, life on hit and resource cost reduction or sth. A lot of the players who happen to get one of those might not find another one at all. So it's really not fair to let them be so random, just give them a socket at least and everything is good, then we can reroll the dmgroll on it.
He's saying "The best legendaries should always have good rolls". Which you are supporting, and I find ridiculous.
If it's that OP, you'll use it anyway. Just like my Odyn's Son with no Str and crappy damage. I think it's crazy that they would make the drops that you already destroy everything else in search for, even better by default.
He's saying "The best legendaries should always have good rolls". Which you are supporting, and I find ridiculous.
If it's that OP, you'll use it anyway. Just like my Odyn's Son with no Str and crappy damage. I think it's crazy that they would make the drops that you already destroy everything else in search for, even better by default.
That don't make any damn sense at all.
I agree. It's completely inside-out to take items that are already better-than-average and ensure that they don't roll poorly. All that does is make the other items suck more, comparatively speaking.
The only real issue items have is that the common legendaries tend to be ones without "legendary properties" which tend to make them bad compared to the rare ones. But I really have trouble believing that anyone is questioning whether they should use a good Pig Sticker (or Nutcracker, or Nailbiter, or Sultan of the Blinding Sand) versus a below-average Thunderfury or Shard of Hate or Wand of Woh.
The *bad* rare legendaries are generally just as good as the *good* common legendaries. So I don't quite see a problem.
I was going to add this to the FAQ, but since those threads pop up daily, it deserves its own thread. Here's a breakdown of information about current drop rates:
Important: If you see a thread that is an "RNG thread", post a link to THIS thread and leave. Do not engage in discussions. New threads that purely discuss RNG, even about a specific item or in a subforum (classes) will be locked. One thread is enough. Thanks.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for starting this thread. Hopefully this will kill a lot of the threads that people create all the time.
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Angry Chicken http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/finiar-1655/WhoDoVooDoo/68187610
What? Me worry?
Nothing Vyr will drop for me ever. God damn it.
Ha. Bagstone.
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Angry Chicken http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/finiar-1655/WhoDoVooDoo/68187610
What? Me worry?
You. It's you. You are the reason everyone is getting bad drops. You're taking up all the good ones!
Edit: Thanks for the Akkhan set. If we can ever dye it with sponsor labels I think my crusader needs a big "sponsored by Ot4ku" sign all over.
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Angry Chicken http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/finiar-1655/WhoDoVooDoo/68187610
What? Me worry?
it makes perfect sense. the cards dont care about which card is which. they are all just cards. they all have the same odds of being drawn. They do not keep track of what has been drawn before. The decks of cards and the shuffle do not understand what a poker hand is. the deck of cards does not understand the difference between 1 ace and 4 aces
but the players do.
just like how one can assume that the D3 code does not understand what a piece of shit unique is. But the players do.
The game does not see 3 "useless as all fuck" Ivory Towers in the past 5 hours. But the players do.
The game does not count 25,000 shards spent for nothing entertaining. But the players do. and so on and so forth.....
The rules that could be writen, and the enhancements that could be grafted into the game as far as item drops and/or noteworthy occurences go, that would increase the number of positive experiences for the players or reduce the number of negative experiences, is as infinite as one could imagine....
I suppose these shitty scenarios are rare. thank goodness!!
Are they rare? They must be.......
Does the Ivory tower still suck? It used to be a goddamn joke....
Food for thought?
TLDR: I think hearthstone is awesome for the same reason chess is awesome. its because the amount of possibilities is virtually limitless. Same with starcraft. Because some units are weak against units and strong against others, It's like rock paper scissors on a grand scale.
What does this have to do with D3? im not sure yet....
PS... Screw Blackthorns.
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If it's that OP, you'll use it anyway. Just like my Odyn's Son with no Str and crappy damage. I think it's crazy that they would make the drops that you already destroy everything else in search for, even better by default.
That don't make any damn sense at all.
The balance of all the legendaries needs to change so we don't get 10 of this item and 0 of the other...People don't like that.
The only real issue items have is that the common legendaries tend to be ones without "legendary properties" which tend to make them bad compared to the rare ones. But I really have trouble believing that anyone is questioning whether they should use a good Pig Sticker (or Nutcracker, or Nailbiter, or Sultan of the Blinding Sand) versus a below-average Thunderfury or Shard of Hate or Wand of Woh.
The *bad* rare legendaries are generally just as good as the *good* common legendaries. So I don't quite see a problem.
The gods are a fickle lot...
But I completed my Marauders this week AND got me some T&T's as well.
Getting used to the death scream of the psychotic rooster ...
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Angry Chicken http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/finiar-1655/WhoDoVooDoo/68187610
What? Me worry?
If I play a wizard - can I gamble and get Tasker and Teo?
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