I'm curious to know what graphics card I should install. I currently have an ATI Radeon 4200 HD built into the motherboard so I know I will need to buy a new card to put in and take over the graphics. I was thinking of this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908
Can anyone chime in on this card or suggest another? Thanks
the 6850 will definitely max d3 on a 1080 monitor. If you are not looking to play games that are too graphics intensive (crysis, metro 2033, shogun total war), it will be fine. Also, if your powersupply is anything 500w or more, you should be fine.
It's a really good deal too, with a free game and free shipping. My friend got his 6850 last Jan, and it was 190 i believe.
Edit: I should've said maxing graphics intensive games would be very difficult, but if you are willing to play on medium or lower resolutions, its still doable
I'm curious to know what graphics card I should install. I currently have an ATI Radeon 4200 HD built into the motherboard so I know I will need to buy a new card to put in and take over the graphics. I was thinking of this one: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814102908
Can anyone chime in on this card or suggest another? Thanks
You should list the rest of your pc's specs. If you have really old hardware and you install that graphics card, the chance is good that your outdated hardware will bottleneck your gfx.
Processor: AMD Phenom II X2 511 Processor 3.4 GHz
Memory: 5 GB
Resolution: 1920 x 1080 on 24" Monitor
Graphics: ATI Radeon 4200 HD internal
System: Windows 7 64-bit
Well I suppose no feedback is bad feedback when it comes to the fine art of building your own PC. So here's my take on it.
I've built for myself almost exactly the thing that you're going after. P8P67M PRO with an i5-2500K and HD6870. Completed with the 2x2GB RIPJAWs (small but I'll upgrade soon) this is a marvelous Sandy Bridge rev 3 build. Everything is made to work with each other and you can really tell when using it. I've only had issues with this stupid Samsung Spinpoint F3 that people all over the Internet were recommending. It's so noisy and slow I can barely stand it. It's a 50/50 chance you'll get the same issues from what I read in reviews. Haven't returned it though since such policies in my country are a bit odd...
Anyway, all in all this machine has eaten up everything I could throw at it including Battlefield 3, Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, Skyrim, Kingdoms of Amalur... just... everything. On Ultra or whatever the highest setting is. Never breaks a sweat, even with the small RAM sticks. It's been some glorious 6 month period since I built it. Looking forward to the next 2 years or so of very small upgrades, like the RAM and that extremely bad HDD.
Starting building my new computer. I have the case, power supply and SSD.
Before I buy my MoBo.. is there any noticable difference between the 4 core and 6 core i7 processor? Do those 2 cores really make a shit of difference for gaming?
Starting building my new computer. I have the case, power supply and SSD.
Before I buy my MoBo.. is there any noticable difference between the 4 core and 6 core i7 processor? Do those 2 cores really make a shit of difference for gaming?
For gaming, it makes no difference at all. The number of games that actually use four cores is quite small. The number that can use six is even smaller. A huge majority are not that cpu intensive, so games like BF3 will perform the same on two cores as it does four. Others such as Deus Ex: Human Revolution, The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings and Crysis 2 are very cpu intensive, so the performance increase from two to four is 40-50%. They'll probably use six cores, but you won't notice any improvement as they aren't even maxing out four. Frankly, if you are building something for gaming and won't touch any number of photo, video and audio editing apps, you are better off saving a bit of money and getting an i5. Specifically a 2500k if you have any interest in overclocking.
Starting building my new computer. I have the case, power supply and SSD.
Before I buy my MoBo.. is there any noticable difference between the 4 core and 6 core i7 processor? Do those 2 cores really make a shit of difference for gaming?
The guys before me already gave you the right answer. So I'll just add: get the i5 2500k if you are only gonna use it for gaming.
That's all perfect to get you started. You should be able to play any current game on it. The mobo is really nice and you shouldn't need RAM any faster than 1600mhz. Cooler Master makes pretty decent PSUs, just make sure you read up on them and price compare. You'll be totally good to go! You can save up eventually and get another ssd and raid them.
Im planing to build myself new pc will look like this:
CPU: Core i5 2500k
MB: Asus P8z68
Ram: 2x4 GB DDR3 1600mhz
Graphic: HD 6870 1GB DDR 5
PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro 500W
Storage:64gb SSD+1TB Seagate Baracuda
Any suggetion to this build? I can't go anymore further up cause hardware is very expensive in my country
My advice would be to increase the PSU power by about 100W, just to be sure. And possibly make the 6870 a 2GB version. Again just to be sure. After all, you're buying this PC to last I guess. You never know when 1GB will start being small. Could be later this year. Technology is really fast and quite unpredictable.
My advice would be to increase the PSU power by about 100W, just to be sure. And possibly make the 6870 a 2GB version. Again just to be sure. After all, you're buying this PC to last I guess. You never know when 1GB will start being small. Could be later this year. Technology is really fast and quite unpredictable.
I've heard the extra gig on a GPU card isn't really worth the extra price. It might be eventually if the prices on them drop a bit, but as for now I'd rather spend that extra money in other places.
As for the PSU, well that's debatable. Obviously you want a solid PSU to protect your investment, but Cooler Master makes really good PSUs and judging by all his hardware there, I know that PSU is totally sufficient. I've got a 550W XFX PSU with mostly similar hardware as that build except 8 more gigs of ram and two HDD's and I've never had power problems. Plus once I finally change out this HDD for an ssd, I'll be consuming even less power.
My advice would be to increase the PSU power by about 100W, just to be sure. And possibly make the 6870 a 2GB version. Again just to be sure. After all, you're buying this PC to last I guess. You never know when 1GB will start being small. Could be later this year. Technology is really fast and quite unpredictable.
I've heard the extra gig on a GPU card isn't really worth the extra price. It might be eventually if the prices on them drop a bit, but as for now I'd rather spend that extra money in other places.
Depends on the use. If you're just using a single 1920x1080 screen 2Gig's is overkill 1 Gig will be fine, but if you're running three 1920x1080 monitors that is where 2-4 gigs will come in handy. You need the extra ram to deal with the extra screen real estate. So if you're getting a 2560x1600 monitor or a 2560x1440 monitor 2 gigs is what you'll need to run that shit because it has a bigger pixel count.
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Is the new AMD FX-8120 3.1GHZ eight core processor worth the $200 price tag, and do you guys think that companies will take advantage of all eight cores?
Is the new AMD FX-8120 3.1GHZ eight core processor worth the $200 price tag, and do you guys think that companies will take advantage of all eight cores?
That's still less than an intel i5. But I know less about AMD than I do intel. And if your games don't take advantage of eight cores you can still be sure plenty of other programs will.
Depends on the use. If you're just using a single 1920x1080 screen 2Gig's is overkill 1 Gig will be fine, but if you're running three 1920x1080 monitors that is where 2-4 gigs will come in handy. You need the extra ram to deal with the extra screen real estate. So if you're getting a 2560x1600 monitor or a 2560x1440 monitor 2 gigs is what you'll need to run that shit because it has a bigger pixel count.
Well, I plan on getting a second monitor for my 1GB GTX 460 card and I do expect it to run two monitors at 1920x1080 just fine. But yeah I guess it really does just depend on your needs so if you're getting into even more monitors than that at higher resolutions than you are probably right.
I know I'm saving to build a new rig as of now. But I have no desire to get an i7. Those are the sandybridge processors which are still awesome, but the new ivybridge ones are coming out next month. So all that would matter to me in regards to that now is how futureproofed my mobo was. And any 1155 intel mobo will be able to accommodate the sandybridge processors.
So if that new AMD you're looking at is quite new, then yeah go with it. If it's gonna be replaced soon by the next gen processors (I'm assuming it isn't though) then yeah save money for now. But like you said, it's only 30 bucks more or so. That's really nothing for two extra cores.
Saving for the new generation is always a good idea but processors and mobos are a bit different. Usually you want to wait for the 2nd and 3rd revisions for them to squeeze out as much as possible out of the chips and _then_ you get that feeling of accomplishment that you've finally made your PC to last. Otherwise you end up with pretty much their test version, which is also very often locked in many departments that haven't been examined properly in order to introduce it to the public faster and beat the other company.
The evolution of processors and mobos is just.... so unintuitive...
v1, v1.3 and v1.7 of the same chip release (for different budgets). They're locked in a lot of ways. Then come 2nd revisions with v1.1, v1.4 and v1.8, they're a lot better but on the horizon you can see the already announced v1.2, v1.5 and v1.9. And as they get close to release "enthusiast" versions 1.6 and 1.95 are released just to tease you a bit more. All the same chips, many different locks. And as you're just about to buy one v2 is already coming out with its baseline v2, v2.3 and v2.7 WAY better then the older Rev1 and Rev2 of the previous chip, with lower prices...
Honestly, the game is about "find the best one with the biggest gap until the next revision release and buy it on the spot, but usually skip the baseline models". At least that's how I've seen it the last 10 years. And I'm quite satisfied with my results so far. Almost the same goes for GPUs.
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Can anyone chime in on this card or suggest another? Thanks
It's a really good deal too, with a free game and free shipping. My friend got his 6850 last Jan, and it was 190 i believe.
Edit: I should've said maxing graphics intensive games would be very difficult, but if you are willing to play on medium or lower resolutions, its still doable
You should list the rest of your pc's specs. If you have really old hardware and you install that graphics card, the chance is good that your outdated hardware will bottleneck your gfx.
Processor: AMD Phenom II X2 511 Processor 3.4 GHz
Memory: 5 GB
Resolution: 1920 x 1080 on 24" Monitor
Graphics: ATI Radeon 4200 HD internal
System: Windows 7 64-bit
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Wise ElderI've built for myself almost exactly the thing that you're going after. P8P67M PRO with an i5-2500K and HD6870. Completed with the 2x2GB RIPJAWs (small but I'll upgrade soon) this is a marvelous Sandy Bridge rev 3 build. Everything is made to work with each other and you can really tell when using it. I've only had issues with this stupid Samsung Spinpoint F3 that people all over the Internet were recommending. It's so noisy and slow I can barely stand it. It's a 50/50 chance you'll get the same issues from what I read in reviews. Haven't returned it though since such policies in my country are a bit odd...
Anyway, all in all this machine has eaten up everything I could throw at it including Battlefield 3, Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, Skyrim, Kingdoms of Amalur... just... everything. On Ultra or whatever the highest setting is. Never breaks a sweat, even with the small RAM sticks. It's been some glorious 6 month period since I built it. Looking forward to the next 2 years or so of very small upgrades, like the RAM and that extremely bad HDD.
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Before I buy my MoBo.. is there any noticable difference between the 4 core and 6 core i7 processor? Do those 2 cores really make a shit of difference for gaming?
For gaming, it makes no difference at all. The number of games that actually use four cores is quite small. The number that can use six is even smaller. A huge majority are not that cpu intensive, so games like BF3 will perform the same on two cores as it does four. Others such as Deus Ex: Human Revolution, The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings and Crysis 2 are very cpu intensive, so the performance increase from two to four is 40-50%. They'll probably use six cores, but you won't notice any improvement as they aren't even maxing out four. Frankly, if you are building something for gaming and won't touch any number of photo, video and audio editing apps, you are better off saving a bit of money and getting an i5. Specifically a 2500k if you have any interest in overclocking.
The guys before me already gave you the right answer. So I'll just add: get the i5 2500k if you are only gonna use it for gaming.
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CPU: Core i5 2500k
MB: Asus P8z68
Ram: 2x4 GB DDR3 1600mhz
Graphic: HD 6870 1GB DDR 5
PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro 500W
Storage:64gb SSD+1TB Seagate Baracuda
Any suggetion to this build? I can't go anymore further up cause hardware is very expensive in my country
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As for the PSU, well that's debatable. Obviously you want a solid PSU to protect your investment, but Cooler Master makes really good PSUs and judging by all his hardware there, I know that PSU is totally sufficient. I've got a 550W XFX PSU with mostly similar hardware as that build except 8 more gigs of ram and two HDD's and I've never had power problems. Plus once I finally change out this HDD for an ssd, I'll be consuming even less power.
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Depends on the use. If you're just using a single 1920x1080 screen 2Gig's is overkill 1 Gig will be fine, but if you're running three 1920x1080 monitors that is where 2-4 gigs will come in handy. You need the extra ram to deal with the extra screen real estate. So if you're getting a 2560x1600 monitor or a 2560x1440 monitor 2 gigs is what you'll need to run that shit because it has a bigger pixel count.
Well, I plan on getting a second monitor for my 1GB GTX 460 card and I do expect it to run two monitors at 1920x1080 just fine. But yeah I guess it really does just depend on your needs so if you're getting into even more monitors than that at higher resolutions than you are probably right.
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Getting a six core would save like $20 or $30, but I'd have to upgrade eventually.
I know I'm saving to build a new rig as of now. But I have no desire to get an i7. Those are the sandybridge processors which are still awesome, but the new ivybridge ones are coming out next month. So all that would matter to me in regards to that now is how futureproofed my mobo was. And any 1155 intel mobo will be able to accommodate the sandybridge processors.
So if that new AMD you're looking at is quite new, then yeah go with it. If it's gonna be replaced soon by the next gen processors (I'm assuming it isn't though) then yeah save money for now. But like you said, it's only 30 bucks more or so. That's really nothing for two extra cores.
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Wise ElderThe evolution of processors and mobos is just.... so unintuitive...
v1, v1.3 and v1.7 of the same chip release (for different budgets). They're locked in a lot of ways. Then come 2nd revisions with v1.1, v1.4 and v1.8, they're a lot better but on the horizon you can see the already announced v1.2, v1.5 and v1.9. And as they get close to release "enthusiast" versions 1.6 and 1.95 are released just to tease you a bit more. All the same chips, many different locks. And as you're just about to buy one v2 is already coming out with its baseline v2, v2.3 and v2.7 WAY better then the older Rev1 and Rev2 of the previous chip, with lower prices...
Honestly, the game is about "find the best one with the biggest gap until the next revision release and buy it on the spot, but usually skip the baseline models". At least that's how I've seen it the last 10 years. And I'm quite satisfied with my results so far. Almost the same goes for GPUs.
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