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I think option 2 and 3 without any visual clue in details would be all this needs if they care so bad about removing this "feature", as they are not intrusive. Don't know why the hell they care about how players can notice it or not. So much crap in this game is never told to the player.

Blizzard, changes things that don't affect me previously to "fix" things you don't agree about in a way that NOW affects me negatively.

Thanks, dick heads.

If I'd want single player offline for anything, its to avoid stupid fucking changes being forced down my throat.

And gaming has fallen.

Yeah, cash in with forced authenticators. Smart, uh. Can never get enough.

You shouldn't have the choice of where to farm.

Why?

Because farming is stupid.

Blizzard got the idea that designing anything in the game around such a stupid concept as farming wasn't good.

The effect of the buff is shared.

I have to say, I do not understand what it does change with its clarification either.

These were pointed out already I guess, but I'll just point out what personally bothers me:

-Very low stacks. It basically brings back boss runs because of it, doesn't it? I thought the point of this would have been having people going all over the place. This certainly doesn't do that. It just means you have to kill champions in the way to the boss. Its better than not having it but... plus, if it doesn't reset after a boss, then you just go straigth to other bosses? Not sure how this plays out ultimately but its not -quite- what I had in mind.

-I still see no point whatsoever in a time limit on something that goes out when you leave the game. Make me get it Blizzard, there's no reason.

-I can't possibly agree that one person changing skill in a group penalizes everyone heavily. Thats just dumb.

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I'm all for meaningful choices and this change is what has finally swayed me into liking the D3 skill system. Finally, we have a meaningful reason to stick with our builds.

There are no meaningful choices at all. There is actually no penalty whatsoever, you just have to stick to your build for the duration of the game, until you die, or until you beat a boss. Again, that changes nothing. It would have been mostly like that with or without this feature.

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thank you for actually using your brain and thinking about the system. you are one of the few

Your definition of having a brain is agreeing with your non-sense.

There isn't even a semblant of permanent choices that this make at all. It does not affect the leveling process, it does not even affect how most people would have been playing end game.

I don't expect you to understand anything further than that. I am NOT for absolutely permanent characters, but the game should reward proper building of a character and using what you have.

Where is the satisfaction of building a character? A lot of it was lost and you probably don't care but most importantly, I don't think you have the ability to even understand it. Like someone that cannot understand challenge and hardships presents rewards and satisfaction from it. Absolute freedom of manoeuvre makes this game shallower.

But I'm sure I'm talking way too dumb for you to comprehend the meaning of rewards in diversity. Apparently, everybody loves to be hand-fed every possibility. Imagine a game with 2 completely different endings and different routes to this. Current generation of gaming dictates that you should just be able to -switch- to the other ending for the sake of it.

Forced repetition through builds absolutely set in stone that can't accept any mistake whatsoever (like D2 mostly was) = too much.

But the absolute opposite, while better, is by no means ideal, and much was lost. Can you see that? I don't expect you to.

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yay people can stop QQing about build devotion/hot swapping on the go and boss loot. hooo-fucking-ra. praise the diablo gods

Its a band aid solution that fixes nothing.

Some level of permanency shouldn't need to be encouraged, it should just be.

This changes almost nothing on that regard. I'm not saying its not nice to have, but its not even a solution to that at all.

I think this is a great idea. I'm actually completely surprised they went this route. I honestly never expected anything but an half-assed solution that would make me run the same exact spot over and over.

As far as I'm concerned, this looks satisfying. A few things, however:

-I don't think a time limit should be given with this. There are MANY things that can remove the buff. A time limit just feels completely ridiculous.

-Of course, losing it on death is more-or-less necessary without a time limit.

-I think if it doesn't stack, it kills 90% of the purpose of this buff. It should have you killing as much as possible up to a limit, where you kill a boss and get good chances for good loot. Thats how it sounds fun to me.

Well, damn, Blizzard! About time you understand that there are no logical reasons to deny people a first run through the game on hardcore!

Well, even that undeniable truth isn't quite understood properly it seems, since you force us to level to level 10. However as the beta shows, thats pretty quick and easy, and shows almost nothing of the game.

Also, some much needed change for the skill system. Still can't see all the skills in one spot, though. Nevermind the runes. Thats one thing you're apparently still too blind to listen to.

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On a more serious note, I understand the reason they are making these choices. Almost all of the things they are changing are to make the game more accessible and enjoyable to more people. Sadly, this sometimes means that experienced or even average gamers like the game less as a result. Yes, they want to sell as many copies as they can, get as many people to like the game as they can. Those are their reasons, they're logical and understandable

No, they most certainly are not. This day and age of gaming is dark exactly because even the very people buying the games actually look at it this way. No wonder the gaming world is such garbage.

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I would like to test this but then i dont exactly support it. Loot dropping runes are so much more fun. They make for anticipation in the demon huntng world and did in d2. High runes dropping was a rarity which could only be achieved through the farming of a few select mobs which gave out hrs. It made it fun!

Are you serious or on drugs while typing this?

There is fun to be had from rune dropping but whenever someone essentially says "I want more farming" I can't take them seriously.

Quote from Molster

Originally Posted by (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

You are very much correct in your statement that this was a deliberate design choice, Caelestis. We did not want to have the Diablo II scenario where people just stared at a dot on a map to guide themselves through an area. We made the map full screen, completely opaque and prevented commands from being sent while it is open to stop this from occurring. We also like the concept that your character has to take a few moments and stop so that they can get their bearings

What amount fuck your pathetic deliberate design choices for childish imbeciles that can't decide for themselves and give me the option instead of annoying me everytime I look at the full map, you donkey?

What the HELL is wrong with developers these days? I can't be polite and respectful when this is how they see things. I can't, its impossible, its beyond my simple frustrated self's skills to understand or even accept the existence of such idiocy.

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I know it seems really silly but I don't like the idea of right click to identify things. Having Cain identify things made sense since he's so old and wise, using a magical scroll is also fine, but having your hero just cast something will take getting used to. Practically though, it's a great idea and a lot more painless

No, its completely pointless as in it completely trivialized identification and makes it purposeless. There is absolutely no point to identify, its just a complete time waster as it is, and so it was in D2 as well.